Monkish Brewing

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  1. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Pooh-Bah (2,019) Mar 26, 2013 California
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    speak for yourself

    seriously though, the point still remains... in this day and age there are better ways of doing things. weather you have to or not.

    i have to hand it to you though, you seem to be the biggest proponent of lines of anyone i've ever encountered. does this appreciation of antiquated customs extend to other parts of your life? are you Amish?
     
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  2. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the fees already being passed onto the consumer? For instance, the Fruit Cart event page states "$18 + Eventbrite fee per 750ml bottle (sales tax & CRV included)."
     
  3. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    This thread reminds me of the blank/generic vs branded growler discussions where so many BAs were defending their right to purchase overpriced branded growlers because it would be a strain on breweries to allow the filling of blanks.
     
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  4. homer281

    homer281 Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2013 California

    Yes, yes they are. Seems like DCLAGuy's arguments for lines are SO STRONG that Monkish should actually stop doing online sales for bottles.
     
  5. DCLAguy11

    DCLAguy11 Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2014 California

    Go ahead and jump to conclusions. Taking account into what a brewery has to deal with doesn't equate to being a proponent of lines.

    Why do you care so much anyway? You are the one who said there are shelf beers that are as good as all these IPAs people wait in line for. I think I also have you noted down in my spreadsheet that you don't like "northeast" style hazy beers....
     
  6. SDReaper

    SDReaper Pooh-Bah (2,174) Aug 15, 2013 California
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    Wait, you have a spreadsheet with notes on various BAers? Those notes could be interesting. I wish to know more. =P
     
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  7. DCLAguy11

    DCLAguy11 Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2014 California

    My "arguments" are not for lines. They ("arguments") are explaining why it's difficult for Monkish to do online sales for cans. But it's cool, I think I'm pretty much done defending this dead horse.
     
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  8. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Pooh-Bah (2,019) Mar 26, 2013 California
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    Ha. No I think you're mistaken. I like those beers. Update your spreadsheet. I have a friend in MA who sends me Treehouse and quite enjoy drinking those beers. And I've enjoyed the Monkish ones I've had, and liked Accumulated Knowledge

    I did say so far none of them are worth waiting hours in line for, and still feel that way. Like others here, I'd be interested in getting these beers if they got rid of this stupid line scenario - which is a fixable problem.

    It's just funny to me that others are brainstorming and coming up with good ideas while you are steadfast in your view that lines are the best way. You've been the most outspoken pro-line person I've seen in fact. Don't get me wrong, I'm not judging you. Just don't understand what you like about lines
     
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  9. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    Sharing the spreadsheet via Google Docs would be of great benefit to the community.
     
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  10. dddddddd

    dddddddd Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2015 Washington

    I think @DCLAguy11 is mistaking you for @Catchy_Name

    In any case, none of this is really that hard. With the way it currently is, it is easier for some people to get theirs than others. The fact is that the lines deter many people and it plays into the hands of those that are willing to wait. With lines, competition is lessened.

    If there were online sales, more people would be open to purchasing, increasing competition. Those who are a proponent of waiting in lines are most likely are willing to wait in said lines. Why would they not want to maintain their advantage?
     
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  11. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    I think it's finally clear: online sales, with a one-day (for storage reasons), mid-week (for my personal convenience reasons) pickup window. Because, you know, Monkish exists to make my beer buying as easy and hassle-free as possible!
     
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  12. Tgilly

    Tgilly Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2013 California

    Yeah I stand corrected on this. As far as an the ipas it may be a perceived value thing, despite getting more volume. Paying $40 for 2 fruit carts seems more reasonable given price of barrels, fruit, and time aged compared to proposed $40 for 8 cans of ipa. I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't mind paying an extra $2 per pack for the opportunity to not wait in line. But, that adds up for me if its 3 releases a month. 7AM hanging with my friends eating a breakfast burrito was pretty chill.
     
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  13. Los718

    Los718 Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2013 California

    That's what's up. I don't like lines, but when you're hanging with your buddies, it makes it much easier.
     
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  14. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Initiate (0) Jul 10, 2009 California
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    Let's say you get four 4-packs per release at about $1.50 of fees per 4-pack. You're talking $12 per month in fees if the releases are bi-weekly vs 6 hours of line-waiting. I'd like to think 6 hours of time is worth more than $12. What can you do with 6 hours? You can do absolutely nothing or you can do a variety of tasks including brewing 2 cases (5 gallon) of juicy ipa. You can even eat a breakfast burrito with the company of friends at a proper restaurant before you pick up beer you purchased on Eventbrite.
     
  15. Tgilly

    Tgilly Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2013 California

    I like your counter point, time is relative to everyone. But, if they double up to 2 beers per release. That's $24-36 extra bucks per month in convenience fees; assuming you would max out. Which I like to do, to hook up trade partners and friends that couldn't make the release. That's money that could go to more beer, shipping, or more burritos. I appreciate them keeping the price down. But, also not advocating for lines.
     
  16. DCLAguy11

    DCLAguy11 Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2014 California

    I'd rather stand in a line than argue with you fine gents online. It's funny how you try to explain why it's difficult for a brewery like Monkish to do online can sales but it's taken as me being a proponent of lines. SMH.
    I like how you selectively take what I say and make assumptions of what I prefer. There's nothing wrong with brainstorming. I'm just giving you first hand reasons of what the issues with your or others "good ideas" regarding online sales for cans. Maybe you're only looking at this at what's convenient for you and not what's convenient or inconvenient for the brewery.
     
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  17. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    That's a little bit what I was getting at with my (sarcastic) comment above, re: Monkish existing only to make my beer buying easier. However, just to push the point a little further, isn't that one way good businesses become great ones? By delivering the best customer service, including convenience? It's a totally legitimate thing for Monkish to ask, what's more important, the convenience of the customer or the brewery? And equally legitimate to choose in favor of the customer.
     
  18. SDReaper

    SDReaper Pooh-Bah (2,174) Aug 15, 2013 California
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    This is very important.
     
  19. DCLAguy11

    DCLAguy11 Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2014 California

    Of course. Monkish has made a lot of adjustments to try to improve the process and experience. Henry will make more adjustments and he's always thinking, brainstorming and listening to feedback. For example, moving the sales to 10am was an attempt to try to curb the lines plus not make it as much of a burden for people to stand in the midday heat and to "waste" their Saturday in line until 12-1pm. I'm not arguing against any of these ideas. I'm just giving reasons as to why they can be problematic. I bet if a few of us here who keep going back and forth sat down in person we wouldn't be arguing like this and making assumptions by taking comments out of context.
     
  20. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    Sure. I take this banter as more fun than serious, really. Plus, I'm truly interested in trying Monkish cans at some point. (See my post in IP trade forum!)
     
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