The Alchemist (July 2016)

Discussion in 'New England' started by F2brewers, Jul 1, 2016.

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  1. elucas730

    elucas730 Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2010 New York

    1:00 and Crusher not sold out yet? Is that a record?

    It would be interesting to see what happened if they opened up the limits. I think Crusher might be popular for a while because of the tickers. But for me, Focal is it. I, personally, would just buy cases of FB. I'm sure others would only buy HT or Crusher.
     
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  2. BoldRulerVT

    BoldRulerVT Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2013 Vermont

    Jen was telling me and others they've messed around with Focal and this new version is just incredible.
     
  3. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    It's not human nature. It's beer geek learned behavior.
     
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  4. JDM0221

    JDM0221 Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2013 Maryland
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    Stopped by today at 6. No wait - 16 cans of Focal and some nice samples of the others. Great time to make a quick visit and see the new facility without the chaos.
     
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  5. MakersNeat

    MakersNeat Zealot (602) Oct 2, 2012 New York
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    Did you have someone else with you? Just curious because I was under the impression after HT and Crusher were gone you could still only get 2 4s of Focal. If you can get 4 4s of Focal, makes it intriguing to just go later in the afternoon if you prefer that.
     
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  6. cw13

    cw13 Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2013 New Jersey

    Is sterk wit still around? Or is there a different specialty 4 pack?
     
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  7. JDM0221

    JDM0221 Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2013 Maryland
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    Nope - it was a 4 pack per person limit of the Focal. I'm guessing it changes once the others are sold out.
     
  8. JDM0221

    JDM0221 Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2013 Maryland
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    Sterk Wit is no longer available and no other speciality 4 packs at the moment.
     
  9. JDM0221

    JDM0221 Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2013 Maryland
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    Got there today at 10:15. Out by 11:05. 1/2 outside and then 20 minutes in the AC. Opened about 20 minutes early - very smoothly run.
     
  10. brewandbbq

    brewandbbq Grand Pooh-Bah (3,091) Apr 24, 2003 New Hampshire
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    I think you're giving beer geeks too much credit. I don't think lines for Black Friday sales are just beer geeks-(yes, except for at the Bruery) :slight_smile:
     
  11. elucas730

    elucas730 Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2010 New York

    Was the line when you left at 11:05 shorter or longer than the line at 10:15?
     
  12. wehaveamap

    wehaveamap Pundit (917) Jan 16, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Interesting debate on one of the VT brew fb groups today (and info I didn't know before) - to get any Crusher, you have to buy the full mixed case. Tbh I thought whoever said a couple pages back that to get Sterk Wit you had to buy the full case was joking. Anyways, someone posted complaining about this and is getting crapped all over.

    Dare I say it - they're right? It's a lame policy and also a weird one when they're running out of Heady early every day anyways. Heady is an awesome beer, but I've had a lot of it over the last 6 months. I don't think it's that crazy that I'd make the drive up there and still forego buying it.

    Surprised me, because in my experience the Kimmich's have been easily among the most customer friendly brewers around.
     
  13. JDM0221

    JDM0221 Initiate (0) Sep 4, 2013 Maryland
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    The line ended in about the same spot I started, but there were also a number of people inside at that time. 11 seems like a pretty decent time to come - maybe a 40-45 minute wait.
     
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  14. elucas730

    elucas730 Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2010 New York

    I guess I can see both sides of it. Crusher is the rarest and highest in demand right now (in part because of tickers). It is probably necessary to prevent people from coming back day after day to only buy Crusher just to trade it away. Having to buy an entire case to get 2 4-packs of Crushers may make some traders and mulers balk. I'd be curious to know if that person on FB was complaining because he wanted to buy Crusher just to trade.

    They're probably not going to get too much sympathy for complaining about getting 'stuck' with Heady Topper. Boo hoo hoo, woe is me, I drank too much of the #5 rated beer in the world and don't want to buy any more. That deserves a paddlin'.
     
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  15. woodfinish

    woodfinish Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2005 Massachusetts

    I think that's right and I'm totally OK with it. Even discounting tickers and traders, if it means another person waiting in line gets Crusher because some couple ahead of them thought twice about really needing two cases, that sounds like a good outcome.

    I'm sure if supply catches up with demand, they'll be happy to sell individual 4-packs of whatever you'd like.
     
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  16. AaronF

    AaronF Initiate (0) Jun 23, 2012 Connecticut

    The dude complaining was admittedly a mule. I have little sympathy. Worse problems in the world than having to buy Focal and Heady :slight_smile:
     
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  17. MakersNeat

    MakersNeat Zealot (602) Oct 2, 2012 New York
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    Anyone not buying Heady or Focal can simply ask their neighbors in line to buy their excess, and there will NEVER be a case when no one say yes (unless there is no line). I am sure it is locals who are the ones where it stems from, but they could also benefit from it. It is an easy problem to fix, no need to complain.
     
  18. HOP-E-DAYZ

    HOP-E-DAYZ Initiate (0) May 11, 2014 Connecticut

    Just wondering why the parking lot is so small? Went up on the second day.it was a great experience and all.just parking was an issue that day. If you closed your other facility because of parking issues? Why wouldn't you make more of it at new place.i see a big field of grass that's not all needed.
    Cheers!
     
  19. BoldRulerVT

    BoldRulerVT Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2013 Vermont

    It's bigger than any other Vermont brewer's parking lot I can think of.
     
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  20. wehaveamap

    wehaveamap Pundit (917) Jan 16, 2010 Massachusetts
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    It's hilarious to me that someone who swings over to a brewery their friend can't get to gets shit on and called a mule. If you care that much about who's buying beer in front of you maybe you're taking it a biiit too seriously.

    Fwiw, I agree that with this given situation there are plenty of people who will buy excess Heady and Focal off anyone who doesn't want them, so it is largely a non-issue. That said, it still strikes me as kind of lousy practice, and when the solution is to encourage second hand sales where others walk away over the limit on the second and third offerings, it hasn't really solved all that much. I'm sure things will get worked out in due time - probably a good handful more people would wait rather than slam the parking lot right away if Heady was lasting longer.
     
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