Tool for Checking / Deciphering Date Codes?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by DougC123, Jun 16, 2016.

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  1. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    This bugs me too. So many times I have tried to find the brightest light in a properly lit (low light) beer store and hold the bottle just the right way in its weak shine to try and find the tiny black numbers on a brown bottle. I feel like they should put next to it in tiny letters, "Congratulations! You found it!"
     
  2. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    This is true - we put a "best if used buy" date on our products along with a time stamp. The "best buy" is certainly convenient for the consumer, but it is a pain in the behind for us when we have to back track or code trace something. But our products do have a more or less reasonably defined shelf life, so the consumershould know when the best if used by date. Only so much information you can print and make it readable.

    Julian date isn't terribly difficult to decipher when you know what/where it is and can actually see it Maybe the main problem is that it is not always readily apparent. If it is embedded in some pile of printed numbers/letters, then you would need the secret decoder ring in addition to the high power spotlight to find it in the format. Certainly some date information is superior to no information, but my opinion is whatever is used should be clear to us the consumers.
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    What if instead they listed :"You look like a dork holding and twisting this bottle up to a light!" :rolling_eyes:

    Cheers!
     
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  4. shyblee

    shyblee Initiate (0) Nov 1, 2015 Iowa

    Since you changed the name of the thread... this is in response to your old one.

    Boulevard's Smokestack Series are what always confuse me...

    "The batch number consists of a letter or number indicating the brand, followed by the Julian date when the beer was bottled. For example, 70071 is a bottle of Tank 7 (7) bottled in 2010 (the first 0) on March 12th (071, the 71st day of the year). We also provide a “Best By” date (mo/yr) underneath the batch number, in this case 03/11"
     
  5. Crim122

    Crim122 Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2014 North Carolina

    Was thinking the same thing.
     
  6. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    How does printing a 3 digit date (001-365*) use less ink that 4 digits (0101-1231) or month/day (JAN O1- DEC 31)? Hmmm...

    Although I'm guessing "ink conservation" is way down the list, coming well after:
    #179- "Annoys the !@#$ out of some math-phobic beer geeks"

    * Yeah, yeah "366" this and all other leap years.​
     
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  7. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Frankly I suck at math but dividing 180 by 30 isn't difficult.
     
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  8. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    He didn't change the subject... the mod merged it with a preexisting thread.

    This topic always does have a number of members who somehow think the issue is lack of math skills. No, it isn't. As you illustrate, many times you need to decode the string of numbers before you can even start the math. And, besides, I shouldn't have to do math to read a date. Those who use the Julian codes are NOT (I say again) providing consumer information.

    That is my gripe... provide date information to the consumer, not just your inventory tracking computers.
     
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  9. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Don't you need a fourth digit for the year?
     
  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    So-called (erroneously) "Julian" dating is just the 3 digit day of the year.

    Obviously, in any of the 3 dating methods I noted the year is also typically given, either in one, two or 4 digit form, before or after the month/day or day of the year.
     
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  11. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    I've always known Julian as yddd... That to me is shorter than any combo I can think of. If you use more than two digits for a year, then yeah, my less ink argument goes away.
     
  12. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Yes, erroneously... the actual Julian date for right now as I type this is: 2457599.39516

    Go ahead... do THAT math in your head! :wink:
     
  13. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    True, for scientific purposes, for our purposes however the Julian date today is 211.
     
  14. JeremyDanner

    JeremyDanner Zealot (679) Dec 20, 2005 Missouri

    The format for date codes on 750 mL bottles of Smokestack Series beers has changed to simply indicate the date the beer was bottled followed by a best by month and year.

    I'm looking at the back label for a bottle of Rye-on-Rye right now that says:

    L072215-1 (Bottled on 7/22/15 1st bottling run of RoR for the year)
    07-2017 (Best by July, 2017)
     
  15. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Exactly, same here. So much beer out there, if brewery (looking at you Lagunitas ) refuses to make it easy, I refuse to buy their beer.

    And there are so many great local IPAs now, I go right to source and don't worry about the wild goose chase of finding and deciphering dates.
     
  16. TankerSteve

    TankerSteve Initiate (0) Nov 9, 2014 Washington

    I'm reading this thread and I'm wondering, is there a good argument for not dating bottles with a clear and common dating format?
     
  17. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    No worries.
     
  18. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    Right or just count by threes for the months youa re in to get a not exact idea . Julian is a pain but if it's there it's better than the european beers that have codes like M15L. One letter is the month one the day and then the year . ><
     
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  19. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    Cause dating machines cost breweries money they don't have or don't wanna spend, pretty much
     
  20. DougC123

    DougC123 Savant (1,186) Aug 21, 2012 Connecticut

    It's not so much the machine itself, as it is the fact that then they have to revamp their entire inventory system and open themselves up to people leaving their beers on the shelves and distributors having to then take it back and get credit for it. It creates a huge avenue for returned merchandise if they aren't masters level at managing their distribution channels.
     
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