Why "malt geekery" is non existent?

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  1. mwa423

    mwa423 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2007 Ohio

    Simply, IPAs are the most popular thing going in craft beer and likely will for a long time. They are often simple, slightly fruity flavored and often easier drinking beers than many malt heavy beers with the thicker mouthfeel.

    I think cars provide a great analogy, IPAs are like corvettes, very popular, quality products that can be modified very different ways (notable difference in flavor/aroma with different hops). That isn't to say there isn't a pinto fan club who has national meetups, but it's a much smaller and less vocal contingent.
     
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  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Some of it is the demographics. While I tend to agree with @mwa423, I'd add that it's also the case that the new kids (no matter their age) are more likely to tend to think they have discovered something for the first time and it is the latest and greatest that they need to let everyone else know about. Those who've been around the block a few times (regardless of their age) are more likely realize there's more to enjoying an alcoholic beverage than how much and how hard one can beat up on tastebuds as a way of enjoying something. They tend to talk more quitly with others of like minds.
     
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  3. Tmwright7

    Tmwright7 Initiate (0) Feb 3, 2015 Pennsylvania

    As many have mentioned, hops are easier to pick out. Especially to new beer drinkers. If I can pick out an already familiar flavor, such as grapefruit, I can relate to it. If i can relate to a flavor i'm more likely to champion that beer or that flavor.
     
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  4. blivingston1985

    blivingston1985 Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2010 North Carolina

    Because everyone loves bread. Hard to get "geekery" out of something everybody on the planet loves.
    :slight_smile:
     
  5. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Well, I named my otter Maris. Nah, made that up. I do remember the beautiful malts in a number of English ales when visiting. These were not sweet beers and the malts tangled perfectly with the local hops. These brews are still my all time favorites, everything balanced perfectly....and not too damned cold! Beer would literally be nothing without good malt.
     
  6. Malt_Man

    Malt_Man Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2014 England

    I liked malt before it was cool to like malt.
     
  7. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    Weizenbocks/Doppelbocks need to be more popular
     
  8. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    True confession: I AM a Malt geek and proud of it!
     
  9. MikeP64

    MikeP64 Zealot (661) Jan 24, 2015 South Carolina

    Excellent thread only thing I can add is I double malt all my homebrews...did it once by accident and never turned back!
     
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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    What do you mean by "double malt". Does that mean you use double the quantity of malt for a given beer style?

    Cheers!
     
  11. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I have often said that Aventinus would be just fine as the last beer on earth.
     
  12. StarRanger

    StarRanger Crusader (482) Nov 27, 2006 North Dakota

    What a Malt Geek says:

    "I only drink a beer if the base malt is Golden Promise."

    "Maris Otter is so last week, but well, floor malted Maris Otter is still pretty good, but only if it was floor malted."

    "I just had a Kölsch made with that 2-Row Okefenokee Pale Malt from Two Track Malting in North Dakota and the bready and biscuit flavors were the bomb!"
     
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  13. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I can go along with that, but would prefer Bocks to Doppelbocks myself.
     
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  14. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Or Vitus which I can get locally.(used to get Aventinus but haven't seen it in years)
     
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  15. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Ha! But I think your Malt Geek stepped over the line into Malt Snobbery :slight_smile:.
     
  16. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Do you have any more of those quotes? They sound a "little" bit real and familiar and I literally laughed out loud (llol).. Thanks for the perspective.
     
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  17. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Carbonation geekery anyone? Under-carbonation and a beer seems lifeless, over-carbonation and it takes on a bitter or even sour taste. Then you have nitro. What about nitrous?
     
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  18. MikeP64

    MikeP64 Zealot (661) Jan 24, 2015 South Carolina

    Yep...I've made IPAs,stouts,and festive christmas styles and they ALL turned out awesome.
     
  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    But I would suggest is that what you actually made were Double/Triple IPAs if you doubled the malt quantity. You cant brew an IPA using double the malt than what should be used to produce an IPA.

    I have been homebrewing for over 20 years so I know how the arithmetic works here.

    Cheers!
     
  20. Wiffler27

    Wiffler27 Pooh-Bah (2,092) Aug 16, 2009 South Carolina
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    for me, a good malt base is the bass player; solid, consistent, and present

    hops are the lead guitarist; striking, noticeable, and gamechangers

    i could use so many different analogies. i agree that both hops AND malt (and yeast, water, etc) have an influence on the beer but for most people the hops are at the forefront for IPAs. they're more noticeable.

    i've had IPAs i didn't like because of the hops and i've had IPAs i didn't like because of the malt. but i've never had an IPA I liked because of the malt, I love certain IPAs because of the hops
     
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