2012 Kate the Great for Rare, Whales?

How many times do people have to say that when you trade whales for whales $4$ has nothing to do with it? How many threads need to be made on this?

 

i think we should start factoring all extra costs into the value of a bottle. traders should pay for my experience, bc i am entitled to value my items as such. if i take off work for the day to attend a beer event, i should also be compensated for salary, taxes and insurance costs. i figure getting a bottle of kate probably costs me about $500 by the time im done paying for gas, hotels, food and the like.

FT: kate ISO: 2 cases of BCBS

 

Shrug, I think that the $23 makes sense and if I were trading someone for it I'd be perfectly willing to factor that in. I think 1:1 for a Rare is crazy, but I'd consider 2:1 beat:KtG to be pretty fair.

 

exactly. its fun to manipulate "values" and "prices" to try to pry rare and expensive bottles out of other people's cellars. my buddy recently went to the UK, i should have had him bring me back a 4 pack of carling - shit would have been worth like $1500 by the time he got home.

 

It's not all bad, I've only been in the game about a year, and a few months ago I did a trade with a guy (it was his first) where he sent me King Henry for, if anything, too little on my part. I think that, as always, building the right connections, being patient, looking for opportunities but not really minding if you miss something is the right way to approach trading.

 

Why is this still being argued about?

 

If you keep in mind all the expenses that occur with reaching out for a KTG then in some cases I can see the total going way over 50$ so if someone on the other end doesn't want to drive 15hours or buy a plane ticket a hotel room and some food then a trade for a rare seems reasonable.

Let people ask what they want in trades without crapping on them. If no one's interested then no one will trade. Let's leave it at that.

 

kate 'cost' whatever it costs to buy a bottle + 1 winning ticket, not a penny more.

However, traders are by no means stuck to that metric for trading. Kate is rare and kate is tasty, if you want a taste, offer up something else rare and tasty and see where it gets you. Not saying this is the only way- a tempting package of off-the-shelf but regionally-exclusive and highly-rated beers will work well too.

People often try and get one up on one another in these trades to walk away with a clear advantage- nickel and diming whoever they're trading with to nail the beer they want for as little as possible out of their own reserves. Why? I always try and 'wow' the other trader and make them an offer they can't refuse. It's a much easier way to nail down a trade. Not to mention extras- I'd hate to think of how generous an extra-giver you are when you're breaking my balls over a $2 scratch ticket.

Also, there's not a ton of Kate- like any other limited release sometimes you can offer the world for it and just not find an interested party. My advice? The time to line up a trade is not a few weeks after release. I would suggest you find a portsmouth buddy NOW, build a kick-ass trading relationship, and see if he/she will be your KtG connect for next year.

 

I'm sick of all this logical thinking!

 

It really will be my downfall.

 

Kate Henry the Rare

 

If I bought X number of tickets and therefore my Kate cost me $money + X ticket cost, that is exactly what I would quote someone if they wanted to know what I paid (detailed out as above). If they had a problem with it, I would move on. I don't really understand why there has to be a community decision on the exact allowed $4$ cost of Kate.

These endless discussions about this exact topic every year are ridiculous. If you don't see eye-to-eye on how $4$ should be calculated, then find someone else to trade with. People are overvaluing a few $$s and undervaluing finding a solid trading partner. I have never had what I would call a 'great trade' with someone who was concerned over a few $$'s in either direction.

 

I will raise you with a BA Kate Henry the Rare Iced.