Bad Trader @BeerKnurdTX

IF you were very specific about wanting it fresh, defined what fresh was, & the other trader lied to you about the canning date, then the other trader owes you a make-up. Trading is based on trust, & that kind of bullshit is completely unacceptable.

IF you weren't very specific about all these things (it sounds like you were) then it's on you.

Assuming scenario A is where you're at, I would send him another message, give him an appropriate amount of time to respond, 24 or 48 hours, on how this is going to be made right, or you're going to out him & provide negative feedback.

All that said, this seems far too...easy. There are often two sides to the story in situations like this. Lying about a clearly visible canning date seems so dumb I have trouble believing someone would actually do it.

 

Maybe he thought the 7/21 was really 9/21? If it was a little faded they could look alike and that would make it about 3 weeks old. Being messed with or concealed makes it seem shadier though.

 

OP, can you post pictures of the bottom of the cans?

 

i had the same thing happen with SOS...guy said he would make it up to me on a future trade but i don't want to trade with him again

 

That definitely looks shady. And definitely is a 7.

 

Yeah, I wouldn't confuse that with a 9

 

Agree with the others, definitely a 7 there. Any response back from the trader? Are they reading your messages? Considering you were clear with the trader and they stated the beer was three weeks old but ended up being ~10 weeks old upon delivery, my answer to the following question with respect to appropriate feedback "Was the trade Good, Okay, or Bad?" would be marking it as Okay. It certainly was not a Good trade imo. I don't think it warrants a Bad trade, although others might have a different opinion possibly. Hopefully they respond to you and try to make things right. Remember you only have 60 days to edit feedback so keep that in mind if you are to make any changes based on how it plays out. Good luck.

 

I disagree. I think it warrants a bad trade. He lied about what he was sending.

 

Totally has to be a bad trade. The two important parts of an IPA trade are what the IPA is and when it was bottled/canned. OP was trading for 3 week old SOS and only received half of what had been agreed upon.

 

I'd say bad feedback since they seemed to flat out lie to you.

 

If they never respond back, absolutely bad feedback. If they do, depends on how believable what they say is and how they make good.

When did you send first message asking for an explanation? Probably getting to a point to name the trader here.

 

Well this trader seems to be ascending up the jerk meter rather rapidly. Not even acknowledging your messages at this point. I'm more inclined now to give them negative feedback as well.

 

Send one more message letting him know if you don't get a response by Sunday PM, his name will be added to this thread.

 

Whether it was an honest mistake by your trade partner or an attempt to pull some shenanigans.....the bottom line.....if everything you say is true....is that YOU didn't get what was agreed upon.

If your trade partner is unwilling to make it right and ignoring your messages...there's no doubt....this is *negative feedback*

Also, did you get a number to text the trader? If not, in the future...ALWAYS get a phone number.

Cheers,
Dave

 

Since we have a name now, title changed and moved to bad trader forum, bad trader tagged.
@BeerKnurdTX can we get a solution?

 

While I only get SoS cans occasionally, I can say that I've never had a problem reading the canning date, and based on those photos it looks like someone definitely attempted to alter the bottom of these particular cans.

Even if it's a simple mistake (sender thought they were 9/21 cans) it's on him to make this right immediately - 8 weeks is a notable (significant to many) difference in freshness of an IPA, and is unacceptable when he specifically said they were a certain "age". Definitely worth the "Bad" trader tag with how he's been avoiding a response.