The "Adjunct" Beer

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by raynmoon, Oct 28, 2016.

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  1. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    How did it start where we all started calling spices and flavoring additions like vanilla, coffee, or cinnamon as "adjuncts?" when, in brewing, an adjunct is a carbohydrate source added into the mash such as wheat or oats. ??
     
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  2. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    People who don't know what they're talking about copied other people who don't know what they're talking about . It continues to be done to this day .
     
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  3. TennesseeBR549

    TennesseeBR549 Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2016 Tennessee

    What about corn? Would that be an adjunct? ( Corn whiskey....)?
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    "...an adjunct is a carbohydrate source added into the mash.." So yes, corn is indeed an adjunct.

    Cheers!
     
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  5. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    Adjuncts are not wheat and oats, it's rice and corn!
     
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  6. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    Nope, might want to check again.
     
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  7. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I like that - true of any forum on any topic on the internet
     
  8. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    Have you heard of German purity law and a beer style called Hefeweizen? And here's a description from this website.

    American Adjunct Lager
    Description:
    Light bodied, pale, fizzy lagers made popular by the large macro-breweries (large breweries) of America after prohibition. Low bitterness, thin malts, and moderate alcohol. Focus is less on flavor and more on mass-production and consumption, cutting flavor and sometimes costs with adjunct cereal grains, like rice and corn.
     
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  9. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    Wheat and oats are a type of adjunct, as are rice, corn, sorghum, rye, unmalted barley, etc.
     
  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Malted grains are not adjuncts. Raw or flaked grains are.

    Malted wheat in a German wheat beer is not an adjunct. Raw wheat in a Belgian Wit is.

    Flaked rye is an adjunct. Malted rye is not.

    And so on.
     
  11. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    The term was originally "malt adjunct" and referred to carbohydrate sources which used enzymes from the malt for conversion into fermentable sugars.
    As has already been mentioned, the bulk of beer literature has relied upon regurgitating existing material rather than original research and scholarship.
     
  12. EdwardAbbey

    EdwardAbbey Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2015 Washington

    Well, linguistically--for normal people just looking for the right word--it makes perfect sense. What other word were we all supposed to use?

    Perhaps I'm too sanguine on the matter, but I don't see too much harm being done here...either to the English language or brewing history. The sun should still rise tomorrow...:slight_smile:
     
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  13. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Additions would do.or flavourings or many other words. But if you misuse the word adjunct what do you use to describe an addition whose primary purpose is to mop up excess enzymes in the malt?
     
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  14. EdwardAbbey

    EdwardAbbey Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2015 Washington

    I quite agree that there are other viable alternatives in the language, despite my original hyperbole. My main point, if I had one--never a certainty with me, mind you:wink:--was that "adjunct" simply comes to mind for many because it fits the case so well.

    If that thereby conflates the term with itself when defined much more technically in the context of brewing, I do reckon that could be the source of some confusion for those unaware of the more esoteric meaning. But it wouldn't be a grievous harm, in my humble opinion. Both uses would still be entirely accurate, would they not? And as long as people ultimately understood the nuance, whenever and if ever it really mattered in a particular discussion, any objection would certainly be bordering on the pedantic.

    In any event, it's far too late here on the West Coast of the good ole' USA to be debating semantics with someone presumably refreshed and alert after an evening's slumber in the UK. Perhaps we'll carry this forth another day...:slight_smile:
     
  15. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    I feel like that adjunct lager description is a little bias by adding "focus is on less of flavor and more on production and consumption" because i feel that while that is a good thought of how those companies do business, it is not a necessary description on that style of beer.
     
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  16. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    I don't speak Chinese.
     
  17. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,611) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    Ok, so let's start a new term.

    Additives.
     
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    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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