I am finding very little information out there on how to use hop hash. morebeer's website has some very rudimentary instructions. Basically saying 15 minutes or less, great for whirlpooling and dry hashing. How are you folks using hop hash? LHBS seem to be able to get this stuff now.
Sounds like from reading that you use it in the late boil, whirlpool, flame out and dry hopping. With the amount of oils it contains it looks really potent so later use, dry hopping would give you the best flavor and aroma without the overt bitterness with that high of oil content (16%-32%) I am willing to bet that if used early in the boil that it would be way over powering.... .Interesting product....might have to use it in a batch myself....
I was reading a post somewhere about dry hashing and the author said that he mixed the hop hash with vodka to get the oils and other aroma stuff out of the hash. I skimmed it so I did not read it all and wish I had now. He said he cut it with alcohol with get it do dissolve in to the beer. Something about it having too much oil in the hash. Has anyone here use it besides me?
I always referred to it as pellet powder, especially in Galaxy hops. I have used it in DH and in the bottleing bucket. In the bucket some does get into the bottle, but that does not bother me. Did not know they were marketing it now. One thing for sure it is rugged stuff. I did taste a small amount, bitter bitter bitter!
Hop Hash is the built up reasons, oils, and other glands and is mostly free of plant matter. The "hop hash" is a byproduct of pellet production from the hammer milling of the raw hops. I found Simcoe and Citra both were 29% alpha acids. This stuff is awesome so far the beer smells great through the airlock. I used an ounce of each half at 5 minutes and half at flame out with a 15-minute steep. I added it late to avoid the bitterness. I did use an ounce of cascade (6.9%) at sixty minutes for bittering. Going to dry hash the beer with an ounce of each. But I read somewhere about it not dissolving right because of the high oil content and needed to be emulsified in alcohol. I am wondering how much I should use because of how much oil is in it for dry hopping.
Not positive, but pretty sure lupulin powder = hop hash. Use as you would pellets… Sean Lawson from Lawson's Finest Liquids in a talk this weekend stated to use 1/2 the amount of lupulin powder compared to hop pellets. He brought a couple pounds of Mosaic lupulin powder to the event for folks to take, so took 2-3 oz., dumped them in a dry hop cartridge and dropped the cartridge in for keg hopping. Within an hour you could start tasting it and by the next day, a 3 gallons of a basic pale ale turned into a hop bomb. Topped the keg off to 5 gallons and is now pouring like a nice Mosaic IPA.
I have not heard of this yet either, must not have made it up to Ohio. I did use a hopshot for the first time last brew, and if this is anything like that... Damn!
I manage a LHBS and our supplier had a small supply of Citra and Simcoe. You should look around because they had it not long ago so if your LHBS uses LD Carlson they had a chance to get some.
"Re: Hops hash results... I know some of you have had less than satisfactory results from the hops hash "dryhashing" thus far, but this is explained via lupulin gland morphology and basic solubility chemistry. The lupulin glands (see attached photos) are like little hollow wasps nests or balloons, where all the good stuff (resins, oils, alphas+betas) accumulate inside the hollow interior, and with the whole thing being surrounded by a layer of pretty much impermeable wax/resin. If you "dryhash" with hops hash, the small amount of ethanol (5-10%) present in the beer is insufficient to permeate into the gland and extract the compounds of interest. Regular dryhopping uses pelletized hops, where some of the lupulin glands have been mechanically disrupted by sheer forces, heating, and drying of the tissues, and thus a percentage of the resins/oils are released into the beer. Hopping during the boil (where no ethanol is present for extraction) also breaks down the lupulin glands via heat. I made a 0.5 gram hops hash extract in ethanol (100%), and added a small amount (5mL) to a finished beer to see the effects. The results were pretty astounding. The whole beer went cloudy/turbid, forming an emulsion, due to the high amount of resins extracted; it looked like chicken noodle soup or a wheat beer. The neck of the bottle was actually coated in a greasy film, due to the oils extracted. The taste was a pleasant pineapple/citrus, with none of the usual danky hops funk, grassy notes and no bitterness, with a lingering burn at the back of the throat...(I might have to work on dosage). I would suggest making hops hash ethanol extracts...40% vodka is probably not enough...find a buddy who makes shine ... and add the ethanol extract just prior to bottling/kegging. If you can't get your hands on high proof spirits, you could try heating the hops hash or grinding it first, prior to "dryhopping." Hope this adds to the discussion." http://www.brewnosers.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6104&start=25 I found the post I was talking about where they discuss the hop hash alcohol emulsion for dry hashing. There is a pretty good discussion in this thread on brewnosers.org.
I have the beer I made in the can and it is freaking good. I called Hop Union and asked about having to dissolve the hop hash in alcohol and they said no to just use them like I would normal pellets. So I dry hashed and this beer smells awesome and tastes great. This beer has an intense citrus hop flavor. The flavors and aromas are clean free of vegetal by-products from the hops. The hop flavor for as intense as it is very clean promoting more of the mouth-watering citrus and other fruity flavors. I'm calling it Hop Hashtastic IPA gal: 5 ibu: ?50-70? srm: 5.6 og: 1.075 fg: 1.010 abv: 8.5 boil time: 70 min 13# 2-row 1/2# crystal 20 1/4# carapils 1# dextrose 1 oz cascade 6.9% 60 min 1/2 oz citra hop hash 29.6% 5 min 1/2 oz simcoe hop hash 29% 5 min 1/2 oz citra hop hash 29.6% 0 min- 15 min steep 1/2 oz simcoe hop hash 29% 0 min- 15 min steep 1 oz citra hop hash 29.6% dry hash 4 days 1 oz simcoe hop hash 29% dry hash 4 days 2 pkg us-05 144 --> 15 min 149 --> 60 min 170 batch sparge ferment low/mid 60s dry hash in primary drink fresh
How many oz of hop pellets would you use to brew the same recipe you just posted above? Just curious because the cost savings may lead me to try it with the added incentive that you posted some good results. In my NEDIPA, I use 9oz of hops (5gal) with most of those being late addition. What would be the similar hop hash amount? Thanks!
Yea, I assume more oz of hop pellets = less oz of hop hash. I guess my question is how many oz of hop hash would I need to do a beer that uses 9 oz of pellets normally.
If the hop hash is tested and labeled like leaf or pellets you could figure out the ibus and oil additions. I have never used them
