Bad Trader: @Tb3286

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by jsidonis7, Nov 19, 2016.

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  1. jsidonis7

    jsidonis7 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2014 Ohio

    Really sucks that this was my first trade and it looks like I'm getting screwed, but thankfully Scott in Iowa is a good person, and great trader, at least I know there's some hope. If it weren't for him I would never trade on here again. Anyway, back to the bad trader! We set up a very simple trade, a 4-pack each of CBC Bodhi & CBC Creeper, I also included a bottle of FFF Zombie Dust, trying to be a good trader. I was supposed to get 2 6-packs of CCB Jai Alai in return. His beer is easier to find down there than mine is to find here. Creeper is a once a year release and Bodhi is sporadic (in bottles).

    He wanted me to ship first because I had never traded before, I thought that was fair at the time, and 4 days later he had his beer. Once he got his beer he fell off the earth, wouldn't respond to any messages from me. I asked what was up after 10 days of hearing nothing, then waited another week or so and heard nothing, but I noticed he was on the day before, AND DIDN'T RESPOND TO ME. At first I was worried that his health was bad or something, but that is not the case, if he can get on here and not let me know what's up. Now he has disappeared again, hasn't been on in 18 days. I told him he needed to let me know what was going on or I would have no choice other than to take it to the forum and then leave bad feedback, but like I said he hasn't been on in 18 days, he is clearly an asshole.

    Anybody know this guys number by chance? Thanks in advance!
     
  2. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    You should tag him, @Tb3286 .

    Do you have an official trade setup on BA system? What date did you ship beer?

    BM some of his prior trade partners, they likely have his cell #.
     
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  3. NiceBeerCans

    NiceBeerCans Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2013 New York

    @dmbforever, just when you think you have closed the last Bad Trader thread, another one appears. :slight_frown: @Tb3286, you need to make it right with @jsidonis7 immediately. Contact him and let us know on this thread that you are shipping.
     
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  4. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    So what's the story @Tb3286
    You are going to destroy your BA rep over 2 6 packs of easy to get beer?
     
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  5. maximum12

    maximum12 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,686) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    How did you guys know who this was? I know it's probably obvious, but I'm not seeing it...
     
  6. ndepriest

    ndepriest Zealot (714) Feb 21, 2012 Georgia
    Trader

    Sorry this pile of crap stole your beer on what was already a lopsided trade. Given his disappearing act, I doubt he shows in here to make things right, but hopefully I'm wrong.

    The plus side is, there's a lot of people that have access to fresh Jai Alai, and I'm guessing someone's going to jump in here and offer to send you some ASAP. If not, I'll be able to in January.
     
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  7. NiceBeerCans

    NiceBeerCans Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2013 New York

    On the title. OP shipped package to him, so he knows the name.

    @Tb3286, Let me get this straight, you asked @jsidonis7 to ship first (so you wouldn't get ripped off because of his limited trading history), he did ship first, you received his package intact, and then your wrote the following positive feedback to him.

    "Didn't have to, but threw in extras anyway. Everything packed well and arrived quickly. Looking forward to next time!"

    Tb3286, Oct 21, 2016


    Tyler, you don't ask new traders to ship first and then keep them waiting. OP did everything you asked and even threw in extras, you didn't expect. Fixing this quickly should be your top priority.
     
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  8. maximum12

    maximum12 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,686) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Hasn't been on in over two weeks. I'd say this was planned & that we won't see this character again, just like the whole @BeerKnurdTX idiot.
     
  9. NiceBeerCans

    NiceBeerCans Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2013 New York

    I'd agree but it's strange that he took the trouble to leave the positive feedback to OP. I think he might come through. At least, I hope so....
     
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  10. Angerhaus

    Angerhaus Pooh-Bah (2,020) Oct 1, 2015 Rhode Island
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    If he's dined and dashed, is this the only person he's taken advantage of, or are there more folks that have yet to come out of the woodwork? OR, are we missing something. I'm not calling foul play, nor am I advocating such a thing, but a couple 4 packs seems like a pour haul if you're deciding cut bait on the site and run.
     
  11. dmbforever

    dmbforever Initiate (0) May 8, 2013 Wisconsin
    Trader

    @Tb3286 You've been tagged as a *bad trader*. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, since you did leave feedback, have a reputation to hold, and this trade wasn't for any whales. I'm hoping everything is alright. With that said, like anything, eventually time will run out and you will have to pay the Piper.

    I suggest sooner, rather than later, you come in here and explain yourself. That includes getting the beers you owe the OP.

    @jsidonis7 the good news for you is, if the bad trader doesn't come through, I'm confident one of my Florida trade partners (which are some of the best on BA) will help me, to help you, to make this right.
     
  12. Vivified

    Vivified Initiate (0) Jul 9, 2014 California

    I think it's worth noting he only started trading in June of this year.
     
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  13. macrosmatic

    macrosmatic Pooh-Bah (2,735) Mar 9, 2006 Florida
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    @jsidonis7 - Dave's right. If this doesn't get figured out, just shoot me a message & I'll send you some Jai Alai and some other FL goodies.
    I'm a transplanted Ohioan myself, can't leave you hanging.

    That said, I'd echo what a couple people observed above. It seems like a weird way to launch yourself into bad trader status - not whales, not even a huge trade quantity-wise, and then he left you positive feedback after he got your beers. Why would you take the time to do that if you were gonna burn bridges??:astonished:
     
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  14. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Does seem strange, but wouldn't be the first time this happened.
     
  15. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    @Skellbop you traded with bad trader in question and left this feedback:

    <<Excellent packaging job. Timing of and communications about shipping need improvement, but everything got here>>

    Can you provide some insight and more detail on your trade, it may help here.
     
  16. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Famous Florida last name
     
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  17. Skellbop

    Skellbop Maven (1,357) Feb 26, 2015 New York
    Trader

    This review was a difficult choice for me, as I waffled between whether to give good, neutral or bad feedback to this guy. I ultimately decided to give him good feedback as I received my package and all the agreed upon beer, though tried to indicate in the notes that the experience left something to be desired, and now after viewing this thread, I wonder if leaving a more critical response would have been better.

    I shipped on 10/13, and let him know. He responded that day that he was getting the package together and would aim to get it out on 10/15, though he needed to "get more tape." I emailed him the evening of 10/16 to get an update and did not receive a response (even though I remember seeing that he did view that message, which made me nervous since he didn't respond). I followed up on 10/18, the day my box was delivered and told him I wanted an update on the status of my box. He apologized, said "work has been crazy" and said he would get my box out on 10/19, additionally adding he could send "can send another little something something if your peeved about the delay." He sent me a tracking number on 10/19, though it wasn't processed until 10/20, so he may have actually dropped it off a day later.

    Ultimately, the specific beers we agreed to trade all arrived, and the packaging was excellent. There was not an "additional something something" and the good local extras actually included a beer I originally offered to trade him (PseudoSue). The experience definitely left a somewhat bad taste in my mouth, though not having left bad feedback before, reviewing his previous feedback history, and after having reviewed different forums on what constitutes different feedback ratings, decided to leave a good rating with the messaging on his communication/shipping skills.

    Apologies to the OP and the community if more negative feedback could have prevented this and flagged the guy. Let me know if you have any other questions.
     
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  18. efrankmcguire

    efrankmcguire Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2015 Virginia

    This is just really odd. Maybe I am naive, but it doesn't make sense to leave feedback and then PURPOSELY vanish.

    @Skellbop 's feedback was exactly the kind of feedback that I value. Thank you for taking the time and not leaving some generic "yearbook entry". One could argue that a neutral rating was warranted. However, like you previously mentioned, everything did arrive as agreed upon. I certainly would have found myself contemplating the deserved rating, and would have ultimately come to the same conclusion.

    If this does not get resolved, I volunteer as tribute to throw you some Jai Alai.
     
  19. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    Agreed it is weird. But remember the guy a month or so ago that got stiffed for Yuengling?
    I feel for the OP here. First trade, he over pays and ships first and then gets screwed.
    Not sure how fresh the Jai Alai is here right now but I would like to send him some New Jersey beers. We brew better beer here than they do in Florida anyway. Send me your info @jsidonis7
     
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  20. cducap

    cducap Initiate (0) Mar 27, 2011 Indiana

    I don't get this either. The guy is going to trash his own reputation of two six packs of easily obtained IPAs?

    After reading the experience from Skelbop above, I am guessing this scumbag shows up talking about "life getting in the way" and "calm down, it's only beer guys, lol" and all the other typical bad trader nonsense.

    Has anyone asked other traders for e-mail, phone or Facebook info? He might need some gentile (or not so gentile) nudging.
     
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