Suggestions To GI For BCBS

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by RangerBuddy, Dec 1, 2016.

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  1. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    I think OP has drank too much BCBS.
     
  2. moshea

    moshea Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2007 Michigan

    I have said it before on this forum, and it still holds true

    As many experts as we have on here telling successful companies how to run their businesses, I am surprised more of you aren't brewery employees or owners.

    If you like it drink it, if not move on.
     
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  3. RangerBuddy

    RangerBuddy Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2016 Missouri

    Horseheadshophead, my point was if you have a similar problem 2 years in a row, take a step back and fix it before you bring it back. And if you decide to pasteurize it maybe take the "develops for up to 5 years" tag off of the label.

    Moshea, that type of thinking supports producing beer not up to quality standards
     
  4. jimmypa

    jimmypa Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    I thought the Regular and Barleywine were back to true form this year, maybe not as good as say 2013 but great beers none the less. Would love to see the 12oz bottles back and either 500ml or 22oz bottles for variants. Also variants have gotten too complicated with adjuncts, they need to keep it simple with one, maybe two adjuncts/additions.
     
  5. moshea

    moshea Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2007 Michigan

    I am sure the good folks at InBev are all over your well thought out ideas.

    Money talks, good beer sells.
     
  6. jimmypa

    jimmypa Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    It will still age or "develop" due to oxidation, which is the primary factor in aging imperials/strong stouts and ales.
     
  7. moshea

    moshea Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2007 Michigan

    [QUOTE="RangerBuddy, post: 5137399, member: 1109162". Or do something better with them. It would make them a lot of money in the future, not to mention the hype around its return. [/QUOTE]


    OK, I am guilty of not reading OP's post fully enough I missed the part where he said "Do something better with them." What a great idea. Why didn't they think of that?

    I'd dust off my resume if I were OP, with an idea like that I am sure InBev will be reaching out to you.
     
  8. Jmorey

    Jmorey Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2015 Michigan

    You don't think they have had to dump large amounts that were bad in the past as well? I would imagine it is standard practice with brewing and barrel aging. Big difference is each year you need to scale up. Creating the potential to have to dump more if it didn't turn out as planned. Combining with an exponential increase of people even in 2 years trying to get BCBS, so there is less to go around from just that.

    I'd even add as more and more people are interested in beer, this information of them having to dump X amount etc probably comes out more than it used to. Because people just want to know everything there is to know. When it is normal business loses.

    This is not a similar problem 2 years in a row. Last year was wide spread infection.
     
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  9. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Right, last year there was also cross-contamination. This year it's just the poor barrels. But if you see @Highbrow 's post above, or posts on other threads, it's getting more difficult to get quality barrels lately. Once that issue is solved, if it can be, everything else will fall into place.
     
  10. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Scrapping the BCBS line - even temporarily - would be insane, and the suggestion that they do that is laughable.

    12 oz bottles again would be nice, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

    As for scaling back variants, GI essentially did that this year. Only BCBS, BCBCS, and BW saw national distribution. Prop saw Chicago(land) distribution as usual. Other than that there were no variants distributed/sold. (excluding past vintages) Sure there are the rumors that the one maple-ish variant was "not ready" and the scotch barrel variant was dumped. So who knows if the scale back was intentional or a by product of other factors, but it did happen.

    Moving forward with the variants it would be cool if they started rebrewing some of the past favorites that are widely considered the best variants rather than trying to come up with a completely unique variants every year.
     
  11. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I can't imagine Bourbon County(s) directly make them that much money based on the limited production. Indirectly, yes. Because they tell retail stores, the more they buy of their regular stock, the more variants and regular they'll receive come November.

    Most of their money likely comes from beers like Honker's Ale and their IPA, which are fairly ubiquitous at airports, chain restaurants...etc.

    As I mentioned above, I can't imagine they'll stop producing variants, because it may indirectly boost sales for their regular year-round line-up. The regular Bourbon County contributes to that, but I wonder how much more a retail store may purchase if they're promised a case or two of Coffee for example.

    Something along the lines of, "If you buy 25 cases of Honker's Ale and 50 cases of the IPA per month, we'll send you a case of Coffee in November of that year."
     
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  12. Wolfhead

    Wolfhead Pundit (795) Sep 1, 2009 Illinois

    Make more of it
     
  13. mwa423

    mwa423 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2007 Ohio

    Here are my thoughts for improvement on BCBS (and rare beer in general):

    1. Put more into kegs than bottles, it pretty much then requires the liquid to be distributed across a wider population. This won't really help boost sales as much in off premise, but meh.

    2. Better allocate product around the country. I don't think Goose did a particularly good job allocating product geographically this year. As several mentioned in other threads, there are places where there are still case stacks sitting in stores and other places where product sold out instantly. A buddy of mine sent a picture message this morning from Texas of the 7 cases of BCBS he bought today, just from a random store display.

    3. Work with wholesalers to make more Black Friday "events". I've always enjoyed beer events where it was an actual event with draft pours of variants, good company, etc. I feel like many (most?) Black Friday releases are just people waiting outside a liquor store in crappy weather. There could be a lot more fun had with it. Having attended a few of their Migration Week events, Goose can put on a strong show when they want to.
     
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  14. JFresh21

    JFresh21 Savant (1,036) Mar 6, 2012 Illinois
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    Now that you mention it, Goose Island should just stop making beer. :astonished:
     
  15. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    OP has to be trolling. I am convinced.

    You got me to comment... Touche!!!
     
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  16. RangerBuddy

    RangerBuddy Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2016 Missouri

    Not trolling, I'm just under the impression that they have dumped out a large majority of the barrels the past 2 years and heard that there was job loss over the conditions.
     
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  17. Chris912

    Chris912 Pundit (803) Aug 5, 2014 Illinois
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    How did this topic maintain on here so long?? Stop making BCS? Silly.

    If your rationale to postpone all production of a once-a-year-product like BCS is because of a dump issue, that leaves no opportunity for GI to correct the root cause and leave enough time to verify. Without making BCS again, and again, you have no proof you've found the ACTUAL problem and that your corrections were successful.

    Problems happen. What corrective actions they put into place is what matters more.
     
  18. djtothemoney

    djtothemoney Zealot (591) Nov 30, 2015 Ohio

    I'm pretty sure High Westified is made in nowhere near the same volume as BCBS for one. BCBS is higher in alcohol, but Lagunitas is a bit of an enigma in my mind anyways. It bewilders me how they are able to make Brown Shugga and Sucks and sell it for $9.99 a sixer in Ohio.

    BCBS is priced very well for what it is, IMO. Jackie O's can charge $11.99 for a 375ml bottle all day and no one blinks an eye.
     
  19. NeverMeant

    NeverMeant Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2016 Arizona

    Aren't those sentiments somewhat conflicting? I would think that pricing it closer to demand would make it even more difficult to "crack one on a Tuesday and not feel like I need to wait for a special occasion".
     
  20. Feel_the_Darkness

    Feel_the_Darkness Initiate (0) Oct 17, 2012 Virginia

    One thing they could do is ship me a bottle...still haven't had a BCBS after all these years of drinking. It truly is a cold dark world out there folks.
     
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