"Chairgate"

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  1. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    No it isn't.
     
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  2. Dan_Inreallife

    Dan_Inreallife Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2012 Colorado

    You're right, it is much worse. At least with someone standing in a parking spot, there is a person physically present that can be engaged in a dialog about them being a douche. Lawn chairs can't say shit when you give them away to the homeless or throw them in a dumpster which is exactly what I would do in that situation.
     
  3. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    I love this so much. Every time I re-read the post it makes me smile
     
  4. ingchr1

    ingchr1 Zealot (584) Jun 4, 2008 New York

    I'm not a stand in line type, but that's exactly what I would do, bypass any empty chairs. If told to go to the back, I would just go buy beer elsewhere, not worth it.
     
  5. Zoomslowik

    Zoomslowik Savant (1,148) Mar 17, 2016 Illinois
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    This seemed so silly to me. No person, no spot saved IMO. Then I thought about the "dibs" system with parking spots in Chicago and the potential shit-show if you violate it.
     
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  6. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    The Tired Hands picture (copied here) so aptly sums up the state of craft beer today. This picture is truly worth a thousand words.

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  7. johnInLA

    johnInLA Pooh-Bah (2,350) Jun 12, 2005 California
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    To be fair, this picture illustrates the absurd extreme side of the state of "craft beer".

    Many if us the have been advocating for great beer for decades have never stood in line at 2am or put lawn chairs in front of a brewery.

    Honestly, I find this whole phenomenon is amusing and ridiculous and really has little to do with beer advocacy.

    The fact is we are living in the best of times for beer drinkers. Some choose to split hairs by putting lawn chairs in front of breweries, so they can get bragging rights on a beer that is rated maybe 0.1 higher then another more accessible beer, while others establish relationships with local breweries and get access to more great beers than they know what to do with, but more importantly, the average beer consumer can walk into the local bottle shop and has access to the best selection in my lifetime, and probably the best in US history.

    Yes, let's laugh at the extremists. But let't not lose sight of how much we have gained.
     
  8. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    Fair point re: the absurd side. However, this absurd side is fairly prominent & becoming ever increasingly so. Whereas before someone would say, "You want a beer so much you'll stand in line for it???" now it has become, "You want a beer so much you'll stand in line for it but you can't be bothered to actually stand in the line so you place an empty chair there thinking it's equivalent to standing in line???".
     
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  9. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    DDB is a king amongst kings.

    DDB is the hero craft needs.

    DDB is the mother of dragons.
     
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  10. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    No. No this does not "sum up the state of craft beer today". This shows what a small handful of idiots do with the their time. It does not represent the majority of beer lovers. Brewers who choose to cater to these folks deserve what they get.
     
  11. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Are those empty suits in those empty chairs?
     
  12. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    To play devils advocate I picked up a 12 pack of pale ale last week that had just arrived at the traditional beer distributor. It was brewed in September. I was in a store yesterday and only a handful of the hundreds of beers in stock I would consider fresh. The traditional beer distribution channels have failed in the fresh beer departent and local spots have the solution. Albeit as noted by many here the fresh stuff isn't necessarily better then the distributed stuff but I dont need any 2 month old shelf turd ales.
     
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  13. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    You probably are right, but there is still enough craziness at places like Other Half, Tired Hands, Monkish and others I am surely not aware of that reflects poorly on elements of the craft beer culture.

    That picture and an accompanying article is something that I would expect to see in The Onion, not real life.
     
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  14. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    So much great stuff without doing this.

    This epitomizes a generation of social media, laziness, a sense of self importance/one upmanship. If it was truly about just good beer, lines would be fraction.
     
  15. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    So much great stuff collecting dust that is months or years past its bottled on / best by date. Sometimes its easier to stand in line for an hour and get something canned that day.
     
  16. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    I guess some element of truth there but so easy to get super fresh growler fills within 15mins of my house, amazing fresh Asheville stuff and goodies from 120 miles as well. Never old. Always satisfies.

    I realize my post was a little harsh. I know that the beer scene is a hobby or pastime not unlike golf, biking, hiking, or fishing to others so to each their own. The chasers just strike a sour note-no pun intended.

    My local spot put on a keg of 2011 Black Note a week ago. The number of folks I have never seen who descended (he put in on Facebook), drank, talked loud of their "conquests" to clearly be heard by others was surprising. It's a small 100% local place. They were also there for CBS. Most I will never see again until the next similar thing. Really their loss.

    Oh well.
     
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  17. Number1Framer

    Number1Framer Savant (1,040) Mar 13, 2016 Wisconsin
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    What if someone has the same chair as you? This has had to have happened at some point with half-drunk people getting into shouting matches over whose identical chair is the closer one. Try pulling this shit at a concert or movie premiere and see how fast your ass gets thrown out - if not by staff then by everyone else in line. Have fun walking back to your car with a chair sticking out of your ass. I'd make it really fun by bringing a blow up doll or mannequin with a wig dressed in my same clothes and sit it in the chair (See, I was in line the whole time!). Also a possible second allocation for my "twin" who doesn't speak much?
     
  18. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Maven (1,301) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)

    But we're also getting a tad out of control on that, too. I work PT at a craft beer store. Someone came in yesterday looking for a gift for Christmas. IPA was canned 11/27. Kid I worked with told the woman, "You don't want to give your husband an IPA that is that old."

    It would have been less than a month told. If we're at the point where we're refusing a four-week old beer because it's "old," then we don't deserve nice things.
     
  19. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    This "phenomenon" (and I am using that term as a synonym for asshatery) is the fault of the brewery. Tired Hands (you can substitute Monkish, Other Half or a couple of dozen others) are going to sell out quickly regardless of whether or not the same is announced.
    I'm convinced that announcing a sale that will result in people lining up beforehand for hours is the brewers version of look how big my dick is. If the demand is that great than make it ticketed and do an online lottery.
    Making people line up hours before is just treating your customers shitty
     
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  20. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    In my area I have zero problem getting fresh IPAs in the store, and would snap up that 11/27 in a second. This freshness thing really is getting insane, because it seems to be trumping competence lately. I'll take a 2-month old FW beer over a local butter bomb every time.
     
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