December 16 Cellar Reviews

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by moshea, Dec 3, 2016.

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  1. moshea

    moshea Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2007 Michigan

    12 Bells Hopslam
    Bottled 12-20-16.

    Count Me In the minority of those who appreciates aged Hopslam.

    The beer pours with a very carbonated head beautiful and lacing is present.

    The Hops are still present however the sweetness from the honey and the malt are the predominant tastes now. oxygenation is setting in with a slight cardboardy, tobaccoy taste however this is still a great to beer.

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  2. youradhere

    youradhere Initiate (0) Feb 29, 2008 Washington

    2013 Stone Old Guardian 22oz

    Pours murky honey with amber hints, decent head with a nice lingering cap of lacing. Smells of coffee, English toffee, and faded florals. Taste is bitter coffee, almond roca, brown sugar,with notes of chocolate and honey. Mouthfeel is thick and smooth, carbonation is perfectly balanced. A nice 3 year old barleywine that could go longer.
     
  3. moshea

    moshea Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2007 Michigan

    Edit, 2013, not 2012
     
  4. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    Rochefort 10, bottled August 2010. Best by date of 180815

    So 6+ years old. Very dark brown, cream colored head,good head retention. great aroma of toffee, plum, raisin. neither sweet nor dry. smooth carbonation, soft mouthfeel. overall very tasty.

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  5. headbucket

    headbucket Zealot (647) Oct 30, 2007 Ohio

    2010 corsendonk Christmas ale
    Picked up a number of these for $6 after the season that year and this is the last of the batch. Has lost a lot of the complexity that it has when fresh. Tastes mostly of raisin. Resembles a sweet brown ale, slight bitterness. Not horrible but will always be drinking this fresh in the future.
     
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  6. SovietBillCosby

    SovietBillCosby Devotee (360) Dec 6, 2013 New Jersey

    2015 Brown Shugga'

    This was a fun experiment that I had at a family gathering where we had a side by side of 2015 and 2016 Brown Shugga'. Only one member of the family was aware of which beer was poured into which glass. They let us know which was which after guessing.

    The 2016 was noticeably darker with less head retention and clarity compared to the 2015. Not sure how the beer could change so much in color.
    2015's aroma was overpowered by musty hops which is a huge turnoff for me. 2016 was much brighter with a piney hop nose.
    The flavor profile was wildly different between the two. 2015 was very reminiscent of an aged American Barleywine, sweet with a bit of hop presence left over but not pine. While the 2016 had much more piney and stinging hops, but finished with some syrupy sweetness.

    Overall I prefer this beer fresh, but 6 others at the party preferred the cellared version. Worth noting that the ABV was different on each vintage. The 2015 was 9.8% and the 2016 was 9.7%. I wonder if this was due to a recipe change.
     
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  7. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    2014 Jack's Abby Coffee Barrel Aged Framinghammer

    When I had this fresh, I thought there was just too much going on between the bourbon barrel and the coffee. Close to three years in now, the coffee is basically gone. What remains is a nice chocolate and brown sugar baltic porter, with just a touch of bourbon. Some cherry-raspberry fruit emerges as it warms. The coffee might be gone, but no soy sauce or cardboard or any other signs that this has gone too long are present, so if you happen to have any Framinghammers of this vintage, feel free to let them keep going.

    Having had some experience with other Framinghammer variants in the meantime though, I'd say the adjunct versions are best relatively fresh. Some (Cocoa-nut) have been amazing on day one, others (PB&J) have been better in the six to twelve month range once they've had a chance to settle down a bit. The Framinghammer base itself though seems capable of going quite a distance.
     
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  8. headbucket

    headbucket Zealot (647) Oct 30, 2007 Ohio

    White oak from the bruery
    Purchased mid 2012

    Drank one at the time I bought it and this second bottle was saved until now.

    This has held up rather well. Still had a nice pop of carbonation when opened. Smells of sweet malts, light barrel/vanilla/coconut.
    Tastes has some apple blended well with the vanilla from the barrel, little bit of spice/yeast and alcohol at the end. Carbonation still lively.

    Overall I am rather pleased with how this turned out. It still has some of the negatives it did when fresh- the sweetness and alcohol combined with the large bottle make the somewhat difficult to drink all in one setting. I opened this yesterday and recapped it and it's still tasting just as good as it did yesterday.
    3.75/5
     
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  9. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Maven (1,301) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)

    I've decided to do a bit of purging, so got a few to add. They won't be super-detailed, but hopefully a guideline for anyone with similar styles of the same age or even the same year of the beer.

    Pipeworks Barrel-Aged Last Kiss (2013): Still heavily bourbon-forward, which I loved about it. Great mouthfeel, easy drinker. Excellent beer.

    Great Divide Hibernation Ale (2015): We did this side-by-side with this year's beer. 2-0 preferred the aged. It just seemed like a fuller, better beer.

    Blue Lobster Celtic New Year (2013): This long-retired beer from a long-gone brewery was phenomenal. I kept coming back to one thing: Tastes like a really well done plum wine. Dark fruits, no bitterness. Excellent share.

    Alesmith Old Numbskull (2014): On the exact date of bottle two years ago, we tasted this. I'm more of an English barleywine fan, but I love this beer. However, I do prefer it fresh. Age didn't do much but leave no trace of hops, and we all know Alesmith does hops so well. Next time I buy this, it'll be consumed immediately.

    On deck: 2015 Pipeworks Murderous (barrel-aged BW); 2015 Alesmith Wee Heavy: 2015 Slumbrew Yankee Swap.
     
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  10. geodonnokepyo

    geodonnokepyo Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Drank these on my birthday last month...
    But i had a 2015, 2009, and 2006 Aventinus
    It is one of my favorite beers as is.
    The 2009 was my most preferred.
    Much more caramel, and less phenols than when fresh
    the 2006 took on a more molasses flavor, still very good, but seemed to be losing its flavor complexities and the body was thinning more.

    7-year old seems to be perfect
     
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  11. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
    Trader

    Palo santo Marron bottled 1-14-14
    The mouthfeel has faded as has the Carmel and vanilla. The flavor still carries a good amount of roast with the same licorice and fudgey notes in the fresh bottle. Honestly it's definitely better fresh-1 1/2 years old, but it is still a very good beer at almost 3 years old.
     
  12. srgehl

    srgehl Crusader (437) Oct 22, 2014 New Jersey

    same experience with a 2014 Vanilla the other day
     
  13. garymuchow

    garymuchow Pooh-Bah (2,878) Aug 31, 2001 Minnesota
    Pooh-Bah

    Summit Old Blaggard English Barleywine (2015)
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    My original review was almost exactly 1 year ago. I'm a little surprised by how much this has oxidized in that time. Fortunately there are some more sherry like flavors but there is some cardboard too. Still bits of sweetness, but they have fade some. This was fine but much better fresh. I guess the best by date of April 2016 should have been heeded.
     
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  14. Fargrow

    Fargrow Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Michigan

    Last night I drank a Lion Stout that expired October 18, 2001, along with a fresh one. The old one had lost quite a bit of sweetness and almost all roastiness. The boldest flavor was pure must. It reminded me of when I was a kid and going into my dad's unrestored '66 Chevelle that's been sitting in our shed for decades. Or musty like a very old newspaper that's turned yellow. It also had an astringent fermented note that usually comes with super old, low ABV beer. It wasn't undrinkable, but it wasn't good. A very cool experience nonetheless.
     
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  15. birchstick

    birchstick Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2007 Colorado

    Opened a 2007 Goose Island Christmas Ale. I wasn't expecting too much from this, but was pleasantly surprised. For being 9 years old, it has some oxidization as expected, but it's nice and caramelized with some toffee and and a little roasted malt coming through.
     
  16. birchstick

    birchstick Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2007 Colorado

    I also had a 2009 Darkness recently and was pretty disappointed. It was pretty oxidized and most of the bakers and dark chocolate flavors had fallen off. I'll chalk this up to a failed cellar experiment, but I wouldn't take Darkness past 5 years.
     
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  17. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    2014 Mad Elf

    Hazy, reddish, good head retention. Sweet fruity aroma. Taste is nice and smooth, cherry is mild. Soft mouthfeel. Not as harsh as fresh.
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  18. phildow

    phildow Crusader (407) Jan 6, 2013 Michigan

    Not really a "cellar" review, but I cracked open a Deschutes Black Butte XXVIII the other day since this year I noticed they didn't put a "Best After" date on this one. I thought the beer was actually very good at the 6 month mark and probably will get even better with age, as it was the slightest bit hot still. Notes are below:

    Bottled on 06/13/16
    Pours dark brown, reddish around the edge. Able to force a billowing khaki head. After a few minutes, a fluffy lace lingers. Lacing stays with the beer throughout the drink.
    Smell is interesting. Malty, a bit of the cocoa or peat is present, but they meld together fairly well..
    At first it's really non descript. The middle/finish reveals the cocoa, maybe malt and peat, while the finish reveals a faint almost chocolate covered orange thanks to the orange peel (reaching a little here to find the orange) while colder. Really an interesting melding of flavors. As it warms, a little alcohol burn comes out. Not really able to discern any vanilla.
    Mouthfeel is amazing. Super smooth, a little astringent in the finish, but this is relatively fresh at 6 months.
     
  19. maximum12

    maximum12 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,686) Jan 21, 2008 Minnesota
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    How was it stored? I've yet to have a Darkness that's fallen off. The 2008 seems to be frozen in time. That said, I'll be having an '09 (among others) tonight, so I can report back. That was always one of my favorite years of Darkness.
     
  20. ManapuaMan

    ManapuaMan Pooh-Bah (1,687) Apr 3, 2015 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Great pic. I did a Mad Elf side-by-side with a fresh 2016 and a 2015. Like your experience, the alcohol heat was noticeably less in the year old bottle. Outside of this aspect, however, there wasn't much difference - the look and pour was basically the same, the cherry aroma was strong on both, the base Belgian strong ale held up after a year just fine. Most important - I didn't really enjoy either let alone one more than the other. Go figure; just not my style.
     
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