face value beer trading section

Example how of this wouldn't work- What has been the price of KBBS the past couple years? $15, there is no way in hell the beer is going to trade at "face value"

I think this most works with widely available beers, 95% of the trades I have done have been $4$, and I think most traders agree that that's the way it should be unless its like the example give above.

Some beers just wont ever trade at "face value"

 

I think when people say close to $4$ it means that you will trade a $15 bottle for a $16 bottle without killing yourself to make up the $1. when you are swapping bottles it gets pretty hard to get to exact $ values all the time.
And its not unusual to make $4$, scarcity for scarcity trades.

 

Trade based on how you want. if you want $4$ then state that up front. But don't expect people to move rare beer for shelfies because it's the same price point.

 

If I am looking for a particular beer, yes I will.

 

I understand the spirt behind this idea, but I think it breaks down in the details because a lot of people are trading their big beers at roughly $4$, but just because its $4$ doesn't mean that its shelfie for shelfie. If someone has a Vanilla Rye and wants to trade it for a Double Barrel Huna (don't murder me on the details here, lets assume they trade 1:1 and cost roughly the same retail), would this new forum be the place to post it? "High value" beers tend to trade for other "high value" beers, but the $ on each side will tend to be roughly equal. It would be nice if there was a way to post trades for more "ordinary" beers, but there's really no way to formally divide beers by trade value.

 

Though I do see what your saying, I can't say that I see a need.
I tried your:

There are less than 20 results in the last 48 hours for Aaron, and 5 for Space Trace. Seems like a easy number to scan through to check if your interested in the proposed deal.

 

I will say for example I have tried to trade a morning wood which cost me $28 for treehouse or monkish at $4$ and when I ask for 5-6 cans ppl disappear or they say I'm dreaming. However doing that with trillium, tired hands, etc hasn't been a problem at all. I understand people go to great lengths to get treehouse and monkish but it's not like morning wood was sitting on the shelf either... at least in my situation. I don't want to split hairs but a certain level of fairness should be attainable with monetary value. But again I'm not trying to "win" trades, I just want to enjoy beer not available in my area.

 

Yet somehow I had to go over $4$ to finally land a Morning Wood. This is the game now, and it sucks.

 

I never go farther back then that, I figure most past that point are closed. I see your point with ST, but Aaron is still brand new and actively available for full allotment purchase at the brewery.

 

I don't think it's a bad idea at all. There are Facebook groups that do exactly this, and they work just fine.

 

I think it would be hard to implement something like this for all beers. I can see it working for regularly released offerings that help exchange beers from regions you cannot normally get much from, but big sought after stouts, sours, etc... I just don't see how that's going to work. Specifically to VR example, I don't see anyone that has a bottle ever wanting to use that 'face value' forum, especially if you've ever had to trade for one to get it. Would I have liked to be able to trade a couple 4-packs of Breakfast Stout for 1 VR? Sure, but who that has a bottle would have been insane enough to do that?

I understand what the OP is trying to do: standardize to simplify. But that's just doesn't work with high demand, limited release and 1-off beers.

 

How about we just make a separate trading forum for this purpose with the idea that people can trade locals for locals, $4$? Back to what it used to be. I've been meaning to throw up some WI locals for random state locals to try some new stuff, and maybe uncover some hidden gems.

 

So this would basically be a section where people traded local shelf turds? What am I missing?

 

I don't think this would be limited to shelf beers at all. Personally, as long as it's a beer I'm able to get multiples of, I would be down to trade brewery-only limited stuff in this proposed face value trading section. For me, that would mean stuff like SARA, Rare Barrel, Russian River, Firestone, and Fieldwork. I think you'll find that there are still some reasonable people out there willing to do the same (Treehouse, Hill Farmstead, etc. included) who are just looking to try great beer and don't care about maximizing what they can get for their beer.

So yeah, definitely in favor of a face value section.

 

I would love something like this. Since the forum is already saturated with people posting the same whale trades every other day, it's impossible to arrange a trade for a smaller beers. I generally don't trade for whales. For months, I have been trying to acquire a smaller local barley wine. I have largely given up hope, despite offering very handsome packages. Mostly, it's because people never see my ISO.

 

My (2) cents...

We already have a trading forum(s) where *everyone* has an *equal* opportunity to post trades for "locals", "whales", "shelf beers",etc every (24) hours.

That forum sees a lot of action already on a daily basis and is probably one of the most viewed on the site.

On paper, having a *seperate* forum for categories of beers like whales, locals, shelf, etc...Seems like a good idea, but in the end it's more moderation and site modifications and another forum for peeps not to follow *basic* rules that they do not already follow in the forum's we already have in place.

I personally don't think there is anything wrong with what we have in place now. I think the trading game has evolved/changed to adhere to trading for bigger beers ( limited, brewery only release,etc) and away from locals/shelf.

Again, just my opinion on what I've noticed here and on other forums.

In the end, I just don't see this change happening.

Cheers,
Dave