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Not even a 4 cans of Julius cost as much as a 4-pack of JIL. Is JIL a better beer than Julius? It's not secret that $20 is on the extreme high end for a 4-pack. You just have to decide if you are willing to pay that price point. To each his own

 

@ Chris - Keep doing what you are doing. I for one appreciate not having to drive to Bridgman all the time to grab your beers. Family life does not allow for it to happen as much as I'd like.

To the folks trying to stir up BS issues over price... If you don't like the price, don't buy it. If you can't afford it, don't buy it. It's pretty simple.

Anyways - Be safe and have fun tonight!

 

couldn't agree more!

I'm really happy for Chris & the great momentum building into 2017. If Transient selling out (almost immediately) every juicy style ipa they can at that price point gives Chris extra $$ flow to put into what I love about his beers - funky barrel aged saisons , foudre aged beers & fruited sours I'm all for it!

 

Think it costs too much? Don't buy it. How difficult is that?

There's lots of speculation on this thread about the economics of bombers vs cans, yet the most fundamental economic law is conveniently overlooked. If $20 was too expensive, nobody would buy it. I bet if you walked into beer temple right now, that big stack of cases that showed up yesterday morning is long gone.

I don't understand why this site attracts so many manchildren. Don't like something, don't do/buy it. It's not that difficult. There's no need to go on the internet and bash one of the best brewers around when someone isn't exactly to your liking. Get over yourselves.

 

Morning Fog at Ram went for $18 a 4 pack. Where was the outrage there? Is $2 a pack difference the moral dividing line of "gouging"? Is $19 still uncontroversial?

Save the vocal protest for something that matters - this is beer. As others have said- vote with your wallet, but don't be upset that the cost, quality and the market will bear a higher price than your subjective valuation.

 

I think it is completely reasonable to have a debate about beer pricing, the fact that a majority of people on this site seem to want to avoid having the discussion is... puzzling (does it make me a "manchild" for wanting to have a discussion about something)? We obviously all really enjoy drinking beer and care about the industry. Maybe I've been drinking craft beer longer than most but there is no doubt that craft beer is becoming more expensive (as an example, a few years ago a four pack of bourbon county cost around $20, now it cost an equivalent of around $28). Obviously there are many reasons for that.

If we are talking about the NE IPA style, I certainly don't blame any brewery for wanting to cash in on the trend and make as much as they can on it. They are running a business. On the other hand, it is completely within our rights, as consumers, to have a discussion about what we feel is a fair price. Personally, I bought a four pack yesterday where the price wasn't displayed and was very surprised when it rang up as $22. If the price was displayed I probably would not have bought it. Isn't that something that a brewery owner would want to know? Whether that price demonstrates the absolute minimum break even price point is unknowable, the fact that almost every other brewery out there can produce four packs at a cheaper price makes me question if it is though (again, FWIW, that price is clearly higher than other NE IPAs, sold in MA or IL).

What people are willing to pay for a beer is totally up to them, we all have different price points. Speaking from my perspective, I have seen a steady rise in beer prices over the last couple years. One of the reasons I got into craft beer was because people could produce a whole variety of amazing styles and deliver them cheaply, at a price basically everyone could afford. So when I think about pricing I am looking at it from that context. While each incremental may not seem like a lot (sure it's only a few bucks more than a Treehouse/Trillium beer, but what's a few bucks??), as a whole it creates a steady climb upwards.

Transient is free to charge whatever they want and anyone can refuse to buy. What I'm surprised about is: 1. our community seems hostile towards even having a discussion about pricing (not sure how price is a "BS issue"), and 2. our community seems to be okay with steadily increasing beer prices. Regardless of what you personally feel is worth buying or not, I think we as adults should be able to have a discussion about the basic economics of an industry we all care about.

 

There's a big difference between having a discussion about what your subjective valuation for a given product would be, or how much the brewery should/can try to capture the value of the secondary market return by making the retail price higher, as opposed to accusing a small market brewery of having no idea how to economically run his life's work. No one is shooting down discussion, but mean spirited, potentially trollish behavior towards the brewer is fair game for being called out.

 

This. Saying $20 is just too steep and you're going to pass is fair game. Saying you wish the brewer could or would lower prices is fair. Voting with your wallet is fair.

Calling it price gouging is inflammatory and attacks the brewer. Thats a term that brings to mind people taking advantage of people in crisis, like selling bottled water for 20 bucks after hurricane Katrina. It's not a term that is fair for purchase of items that aren't necessities like beer.

 

A post for Transient releases to people being mad about not being a member or emails being slow to ripping a business trying to get its feet off the ground and establish itself to now Katrina....wow...makes me finally realize why the BA Moderaters created what originally appeared to be god controlling forum rules.

Please Transient just release a new beer today just so we can go back to talking about something that caused me to join this site in the first place.

 

PS I would pay $50 a 4 pack just to have Chris hand deliver it to me

 

Independent of this particular thread, discussions on price generally are not about whether someone can afford a beer. It's about perceived value. I might be able to afford a $12 bomber of a DIPA but I might choose not to purchase it due to the beer's perceived value to me. There is a difference there imo.

 

If anyone has a 4 pack of JIL and think they paid too much I have $20 readily available to take it off their hands.

Struck out at a couple places today. Would gladly pay.

 

Dear Transient please come to Ohio next so I can complain about something. Signed 2016


But seriously keep doing what you are doing some great brews coming from you.

 

Would this come with an otphj? I hear brewers have really soft hands, probably from all of the citra hops. Not that would matter for an otphj but at least I would smell nice.

 

i don't care about all this price bs, this beer is amazing.

 

i agree, discussions about pricing should not be discouraged.

Like why is lagunitas still 9.99 a sick pack? they make millions of gallons of beer.

 

/price discussion

 

I think secondary market price is way higher than $20.

 

Yeah I think it starts with your first born.