washing yeast question

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by jlordi12, Sep 28, 2012.

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  1. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    So there is a wide range of opinions how long yeast can keep. Some people claim that washed yeast shouldn't be used past 3 months, others feel that it can keep up to and past a year. My question is if I were to wash my yeast from the batch I have fermenting now is that yeast considered "new" yeast or is it two weeks old or however long I fermented? Does the time you can save yeast reset each time you ferment and wash?
     
  2. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

    Washed yeast considered 1st. 2nd. 3rd. 4th. 5th generation. keeping on your fridge doesn't count (up to your personal limit).
    Each generation mean less healthy yeast, cause by new fermentation and new washing. Each fermentation involve more dead yeast and less healthy cells. The washing it self contribute contamination too.
    To sum up, You can call it Yeast recycling rather then Yeast Washing. just because the yeast doesn't get washed.
     
  3. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    Can someone make this a sticky for what not to say? Thanks.
     
  4. leedorham

    leedorham Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2006 Washington

    What? I don't have the time to write a full response right now, but this is mostly incorrect. If what you are saying is true then we wouldn't be able to propagate yeast.
     
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I'm not a yeast washer, but logically I think it would make sense to reset your clock at the end of active fermentation, i.e. the last time your new population actively fed. This is roughly the point they'll begin declining.

    But I think the important question is once the clock is reset, how long does the yeast remain viable? You asked about three months or a year. In both cases, you'll have some viable cells, but much different numbers of them. You might look to the Mr. Malty viability percentages as a starting point.
     
  6. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Mr malty is great as vike man mentioned... I have 1056 in the fridge right now that I washed out of the primary on 9/4/12.... Mr malty app tells me that yeast is at approximately 51 % viability and that my next recipe that is gonna be in the neighborhood of OG 1.068 will need about 200 ml of yeast cake which I just approximate from my 100 ml increment mason jars. Most people say mr malty errs on the side of more yeast rather than less but I like that
     
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