I need help naming these beer flaws...

Old kegs.

Dirty tap lines...

Both?

 

Bad palate day??

 

Old and oxidized. Oxidation can also exaggerate any DMS that may not have been noticeable previously, which would explain the veggies. I wouldn't also downplay that there may be dirty lines as well. Looks like your lucky day, and you hit the trifecta .

 

Have you tried the beer before tonight ? Not trying to sound like a smart @$$ but the latter is what I thought it tasted like when I tried a can.

 

Could be a number of things already mentioned. Old beer and dirty tap lines come to mind. I've also seen workers tap the wrong the keg. Just the other day I was in a local pizza joint having dinner and beer when one of the workers asked me why Shock Top looked so dark. I went back to give their lines a look and sure enough, they had tapped an Amber Bock keg on the Shock Top. I work for AB they know me and I fixed their line. It happens.

 

Hell ya, nothing as shitty as drinking beers thru nasty lines. I'd add to that maybe a dated Keg, taps should be dated too they don't lest forever.

 

Maybe so, but odds are if it's truly shitty there's dirty lines involved.

 

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How often do they clean their lines? That's probably the leading culprit. Old kegs...I mean something that is truly old is more rare than lines that don't get cleaned regularly. Some places clean their lines 2-4 times per year. If they clean any less than this, you may have your answer.

 

Tap lines should be cleaned very frequently (like once a week). In Pennsylvania the law is once a week.

In accordance with PLCB Laws, all tap lines are required to be cleaned on a weekly basis.

http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/040/chapter5/s5.51.html
https://www.lcbapps.lcb.state.pa.us/webapp/education/item_images/4036.pdf

Cheers!

 

Yeah, but it's also Pennsylvania law that you have to order 24 beers at a time. That's a lot for one sitting, but at least those lines were clean.

 

There's a special kind of hell that dirty tap lines with beer that sits in them are fond of giving.

 

Chris, have you not been keeping up with current events!?!

One week ago the principle beer retailer in PA (called a retail Beer Distributor) can now sell 6-packs and single bottles.

So not with the times. Tsk tsk.

Cheers!

 

Do you think it possible, the dish water used in a bar/pub could be ..dirty? You know what I'm referring too.. where the bartender dips the glass down in the washing sink, then over a bristle brush, then into the sink for rinsing.

I've seen beer reviews that have similar descriptions, such as "smelled like a dirty wash rag". My 1st thought when I saw that description last year was.. maybe the glass WAS washed with a dirty rag?

 

# So not with the times. Sad. Good news for Pa retailers and consumers, right?

 

Yes, things are better for beer consumers in PA today than it was a week ago.

Whew, with that out of the way, IMO there is still a need for further reforms of alcohol laws/regulations in PA.

Let’s first discuss the beer retail scene. I have traveled to other states where I can purchase beer at a number of different retailers: liquor stores, supermarkets, convenience stores, …. In my opinion this is what PA should get to for a few reasons:

· Competition is a good thing for consumers

· Making it more convenient for shoppers. I can buy beer while I buy my milk and eggs for example.

· Etc.

The current system limits the number of licenses that can sell beer in PA. I am sort of lucky in that I live in the Philly area which is highly populated so I do have a number of retailers to select from but if I lived in the middle of the state this would not be the case.

Now, the really bad part: all liquor and wine is sold at state operated stores. When I was a kid these were called State Stores. Now they are labeled as Wine & Spirits Stores. Despite the naming, one aspect remains the same, the employees are state government employees. Would you want to go to your local DMV office and ask for help making a purchase?

Cheers!

 

Just as an FYI, certain grocery stores are now allowed to sell wines. That went into effect before the new six pack sales for retail distributors went into effect.

 

Yup, my local Wegmans sells wine. There is a limited selection of wine with restrictions: a limit of four bottles and you need to purchase the wine at a separate cash register.

In my opinion the recent alcohol reforms (e.g., some supermarkets can sell wine, beer distributors can now sell 6-packs, etc.) are incremental things that the politicians like Gov. Wolf are willing to do so they can claim they are reforming PA's archaic alcohol laws while avoiding comprehensive alcohol reform legislation like to one that Gov. Wolf vetoed in 2015.

http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/8673422-74/taxes-wolf-liquor

Needless to say that people will have varying opinions but I have a strong opinion that a state government should not be in the retail business; I think it is better and more appropriate for the private sector to perform a retail function.

Cheers!