Bad Trader situation resolved: @bikesnbeerFtc

Attacks on this web site outside of this thread in beer mail? If that is true, that is not cool at all. If someone who is not involved with this trade they should say their peace in this thread where everyone can see it, not hiding in a beer mail.

 

@bikesnbeerFtc

If there "truly" were *personal* attacks in messages on BA please report them and they will be handled accordingly. Until then, this could easily be he/said she/said scenario.

Also, your reputation is on the line, so if you feel the OP isn't telling the whole story (presenting the facts), now is your time to speak or forever hold your peace.

 

Wow.

Honestly, I have no problem with people tracking down & 'thrashing' people who have every intention of stealing beer because, well, they've asked for it. I know it can be difficult to judge intent, but @bikesnbeerFtc showed up the day after this thread was created & appeared to be trying to make things right. That shouldn't require a lynch mob.

I've been preaching for a while that the vitriol aimed at bad traders has gone overboard. I hope those who made personal attacks privately as held responsible. People need to chill the fuck out.

 

It may have been a little on the quick side to post his job and such on social media. But as you have said it appeared he had a replacement in hand and he didn't and there was no communication for over a week until this thread was created. Another case where the whole thing could be avoided with just some simple communication. Hope this gets resolved as it seems both parties are trying to make this better and have learned from it.

 

@JChurchwell @bikesnbeerFtc

Alright...It sounds like both of you, as well as the community can learn a thing or two of *what not* to do in future trades. Or, another way to look at it is....What would have made this a better (fun) trade. Cause in the end...Isnt that what it's all about!?!

(1) communication (2) factor in weather when shipping (3) no posting personal info on BA

We ALL make mistakes or wish we would have done things "differently". Not just in beer trading, but in everyday situations.

Sounds like this will be resolved, which is always a positive.

 

Absolutely not! Regardless of the social media platform you shouldn't be throwing around someone's personal information to begin with, and any amount of actual patience would have avoided the issue entirely.

 

So would communication. Pretty much the cause of most BT threads from what I can tell.

 

@JChurchwell

I'm sorry did you not understand that these were the things I was upset about in the first place. I thought you agreed to let it die and move on.

 

@dmbforever so can we get this thread off of here and end this. He has a tracking number and agreed on a day to ship the bottle is on its way.

 

This horse looks like hammered meatloaf.

 

After bringing his employer into it, you don't deserve to get a replacement beer.

 

Did I miss something or has the bad trader still not explained why he didn't respond to the messages in the first place? That would have kept the (unnecessary) escalation from ever happening.

 

Haven't read through the responses like I probably should have but seeing as how I am his negative feedback I thought I would chime in. Long story short, we agreed upon a trade, I sent his bottles off (something like a Fou, another Loon and some Fonta Flora for Casey beers including Leaner B1) 7 days and 5 or 6 attempts to communicate with him go by with no response in return. Luckily my bottles hadn't made it to him yet so I had the package returned to my house. That was that, or so I thought. To my surprise, 2 or 3 weeks after my package had been returned, I received an awesome Casey porch bomb that was so vast some of it still sits in my cellar until I get around to drinking all of the family preserves, leaner, and cuts out of my limited Casey branded Teku. I sent his beers off the next Monday and that was that, none of my messages ever warranted responses. I'll let you decide if it was worth it, but I still classified the headache as a Bad experience.

 

Perhaps, leave it as a bad trade and change feedback to reflect that you got your beer? I read the feedback as the BT stole beer from you essentially. Certainly, a pattern of poor communication.

 

Not to go far off topic, but the number of characters available in feedback is not enough to leave any kind of feedback or explanation for a trade that is anything other than perfect.