Tap room turn offs

Then you need to be aware of situations where that type of language is more likely to occur. In the dining area of a brewpub on Tuesday night, nit likely to be much random cussing. The taproom of that brewpub, on the afternoon of a big game? Yeah, every other word is gonna offend someone. If that language is a genuine issue for you, you need to pick your spots.

 

The brewery that hit all 3 of your points for me that I hope you already patron in your home state - Lost Nation.

 

I am aware of such situations, and I don't bring my kids to inappropriate places, but thanks for the advice. You might be surprised, or maybe not, that people swear around kids in kid friendly environments all the time.

I'm just suggesting that it's common decency to act responsibly around children, even if you don't think children should be there. I guarantee it wasn't the kids' choice to be brought into a situation where you feel that using offensive language - loud enough for others to hear- is integral your enjoyment.

 

Just swear in front of them at home like we do, then nothing they hear in a bar/taproom will be bothersome. Problem solved.

 

Same here. My daughter has been going to breweries since she was a newborn (now 5) and loves going. Hell, she's been to Cantillon and had a grand time making bead necklaces with another little girl. She also knows how to behave and my first priority is to be a parent and keep an eye on her. I can't tell you how many times I'm annoyed by other parents at Fremont Brewing who just let their kids run wild.

I have no problem with dogs at breweries, but there have been a few places that I've been that lack proper ventilation and the places just smell like dirty/wet dog.

 

Maybe we have different views because of our geographical differences. Out here, the breweries are, mostly, all family friendly, and the kids genuinely seem to have fun at them. Anyone under 21 can't be at the bar, and some places keep the barroom 21+, and the dining area all ages. Some places give the kids free range, except for being right at the bar itself. The couple of taprooms in my town that are 21+ just don't have a lot of space to have a separate kids area.

But basically, I believe that there are few "bad" words, just that we project certain meanings and connotations upon them. Much like if a kid falls and scrapes his knee, and a parent runs right and makes a deal about it, the kid learns a scraped knee is big deal, but if ya say "hey, no big deal, lets keep playing" the kid learns a scraped knee is no big deal, overreaction to certain words creates learned responses from the kid. If I think a cuss word is appropriate for the statement I'm making, I'm gonna use it regardless if there are dogs, kids, popes, or Mother Theresa around.

 

Do other areas in the country allow dogs inside? I guess that surprises me. Almost every brewery or tap room I go to in Houston or Austin have outdoor areas, and that is were the dogs are. Never inside. Dogs can't be inside a restaurant/bar/Tap room or what have you. So there is always some separation if you want to get away.

 

In WA there is no legal requirement that a brewery has to serve food to be kid friendly. Most breweries out here DON'T serve food (Fremont, Reubens, Stoup, Urban Family, etc.) and are kid friendly. Beer is a community thing and they've made it a point that families should be welcome with homemade soda and often coloring books, puzzles, toys, etc. We do have a few breweries that are not kid friendly (Holy Mountain (but kids can come in for growler fills or bottle purchases), Cloudburst, etc.) and that's fine too.

Dogs are welcome at some beer places in Seattle (Fremont Brewing for one), but not everywhere.

 

New taproom opened in my town recently. There's a mixture of seated tables and standing tables. I was in the other night, sitting at the bar. Behind me is a large group, 3-4 families, with kids of a variety of ages. Over to the side are a few of small seated tables, and two long, stand-up, communal tables. Three of the kids from the group behind me, were playing tag by running around the stand-up tables, which were all occupied. I promise you, had I been standing at those tables, those kids would have learned some new language.

 

Up here, basically, if you don't serve food you can choose to allow dogs in. We are a very dog friendly area (I'm pretty sure my town has more pet stores than toy stores), and people take their dogs every where. Several of the breweries even keep a stash of dog treats to give pooches. One of the breweries is located in the same building as a board shop, and the owner of the board shop has 2 black labs. It's not uncommon for the labs to just roll over to the brewery to hang out, get some attention, have a couple treats. They're regulars just on their own.

 

No offense to anyone, but I do not understand the annoyance at not being able to have bottle shares in breweries. You're at a brewery. Shouldn't you be there to drink the brewery's beer and not tick whales in front of others?

I get bottle shares in lines/at breweries is a regional thing. I should note that it doesn't normally happen and it actually isn't legal in WA or OR, so that's my perspective.

 

Oh, yeah same way here, except dogs are basically outdoors all the time. It is almost a requirement for a bar to have an outdoor area in Houston, or people aren't coming.

 

Here in Phoenix, I believe a place must serve some kind of food in order for kids to be allowed. Even if its just a bar with bad nachos and warm pretzels. With that said, in places that do serve food, I've definitely seen kids sitting directly at the bar... Not sure if that's allowed or what. Kids are allowed in liquor stores all day long here, though. I definitely had some culture shock when I moved here from Indiana.

I've never had a problem at all with kids, though. It's just the dogs for me. Keep them on the patio if you absolutely must bring them, but you'll still get some dirty looks from me.

 

I get what you're saying, and I never call attention to the fact that someone is being inappropriate around my kids, but kids will eventually repeat what they hear regardless of how their parents react. That's how kids learn language, after all.

On behalf of pet owners, parents, Cardinals, and saints everywhere, I say thanks for setting such a good example

I'm always surprised that dogs are allowed in taprooms, too, being that you generally can't bring dogs inside any other type of business around here. It doesn't bother me, though.

 

Lost Nation! Yep. Halfway between my home and family farm. We make the stop often. They're responsible for my love of Gose.

 

There has to be a "barrier" 40 inches tall to separate the 21+ area from the all-ages area. One local bar/restaurant solved that by putting a couple 40 inch tall stand up tables a few feet back from the bar. So, basically, kids can be "in" the bar, but not "at" the bar.

When I was kid, less than 5, I remember doing Saturday chores and errands with my dad and his dad. We'd go to the dump, the hardware store, the butcher, etc, and we'd always stop for "lunch" at the bar. They would just plop me on a barstool, give me a coke and chips, and they'd bullshit with their buddies, no harm done. I'm not against the idea of kids in bars, it expands their experiences, but in practice, I don't like them in bars. I'll just go over and sit with the stinky dogs. The girls like to pet the dogs anyway.......

 

After reading some of these posts I'm not sure if I don't know what a "tap room" is or other people don't. When I hear about something going to a "tap room" I assume they are going to a certain brewery not a bar that has a random tap list.

 

Yes, I've been referring to brewery taprooms. Around here some serve food (thus, brewpub) and some don't. Some have food trucks, or allow kids, or dogs, or various combinations thereof. Bars are a whole other thing.

 

Yep. Brewery and taproom are synonymous out here in the wild wild PNW.

 

On a previous, similar thread, I talked about a very local brewery taproom (0.4 miles from my office) that had no (let me repeat that) no chairs or stools. Been there since that post, chatting it up with the owners... turns out the town zoning won't let them have chairs! Probably worried this brewery will turn into a ... oh my gosh... a bar!!!
I am not going to name the town because this is a decent brewery, but I don't want to give them a bad rep, but I will say that a few years ago this town had the most liquor permits per population in the entire state. I like Connecticut but their liquor laws and attitudes suck some time.