Bad BIF'r -- @CapCollector16

Discussion in 'Bad Traders' started by Pando, Feb 23, 2017.

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  1. Pando

    Pando Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2011 Connecticut

    I was hoping that it wouldn't have to come to this but it's been long enough. I run a BIF Fantasy Baseball league and I'm having an issue with @CapCollector16 The problem is he is active on this site daily and still keeps giving me the run around.


    Back in mid October I sent out an email to the league with the winners and who will send to whom. Everyone responded (including Cap) and said they'd get their boxes out and most everyone sent out their boxes within the month. After being informed about two months later by @st9647v3 that he has yet to receive his box from Cap (or even had heard from him), I contacted Cap. He responded that day and said after Christmas he would get his box out. As he still did not have his box out by January 18th, I contacted him once again. He again responded that day and said he forgot and that he would get it out. Three weeks after that and still nothing. I contacted him yet again and he promptly responded saying he would get it done (this had been the 4th time I had contacted him about the box at this point). Later that day I saw that he had recently made a trade about a week earlier and I let him know I was pissed about it. You all can read his response below (I've included the BM's between us) and why he is butt hurt about having to send a box (which is absolute crap).


    Also, he has been on this site at least two times since I sent him the BM the other day and he has still yet to read or respond to it which is why I'm posting in here so I can warn people about him.



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    Nathan

    I need to know when your box is going out to Micro for last years Fantasy Baseball league. He or I haven't heard from you and I really don't want to have to start posting your name in Bad Trader forums and stuff like that. You said three weeks ago that you were going to send it out and still nothing.

    Joe
    Pando, Feb 2, 2017

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    Will get it done. Just responded to other message in the group

    CapCollector16, Feb 2, 2017

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    Nathan

    It's now been almost 2 weeks since you said you were going to get your box out. If I don't see anything by Tuesday next week I'm going to start posting.

    Pando, Feb 15, 2017

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    Yes sir

    CapCollector16, Feb 16, 2017

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    I'll make sure to get on it

    CapCollector16, Feb 16, 2017

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    Nathan

    I'm a little pissed that I saw you made a trade recently and still haven't sent out your box. I was going to post in the Bad Trader forum a few minutes ago but Micro actually talked me out of it. Tuesday is the absolute limit.

    Pando, Feb 16, 2017

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    hey do whatever you need to do man. If you think I'm a bad trader go for it. The reason I'm so salty about all of this is because my team got auto drafted and I didn't even play the season. Your boy will get his beer and ill send shipping to the whole group by Tuesday then delete me out of it, and if you wanna label me a bad trader you're more than welcome to. I trade once a month if that anymore, so you wont be hurting me.

    CapCollector16, Friday at 9:35 AM

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    Listen, all I know is that you agreed to participate in a BIF league and you haven't sent your box. The draft date and time was known well ahead of time and I even texted you at the start of the draft because you weren't there. If you didn't like your team (which had a lot of good players) you could have traded throughout the season. If you didn't play then that's on you, but you still agreed to the league either way. All I care is that everyone who participated sends out their box as agreed upon and once yours is received by Micro, I will gladly delete you out of the league.

    Pando, Friday at 1:34 PM

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    Was your box sent?

    Pando, Yesterday at 9:53 AM
     
  2. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    Wow. What a response.
    I would love to hear if he has a different side to the story.

    What was he supposed to send?
     
  3. Pando

    Pando Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2011 Connecticut

    @SammyJaxxxx I'd be interested to hear if he has another side because I will gladly show anyone any communication between us.

    The minimum is a 110oz of beer from either people's "want" list or beers talked about between them. Even if people don't use that, it has to just be good beer (no shelf turd crap).
     
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  4. blue-dream

    blue-dream Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2013 Virgin Islands (U.S.)

    @CapCollector16 has been tagged as a bad trader, hopefully he responds and we can get this worked out for all parties involved.
     
  5. Pando

    Pando Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2011 Connecticut

    @blue-dream Much appreciated. The only thing I care about is that everyone stays true to their commitments.
     
  6. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Grand Pooh-Bah (3,372) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Look at his avatar. No shock. :slight_smile:
     
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  7. Badfish

    Badfish Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Tennessee

    @CapCollector16 is now "engaged in conversation." Care to come over here and clear your name?
     
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  8. Joliet814

    Joliet814 Initiate (0) May 1, 2015 Illinois

    @CapCollector16 was on ba engaged in a conversation about a hour ago curious why he didn't want to come in here and talk it out.
     
  9. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    Only justifiable reason he wouldn't come here is he was engaged in conversation with @Pando
     
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  10. Pando

    Pando Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2011 Connecticut

    @SammyJaxxxx No conversation over here from him. I was guessing it was with a moderator... He still hasn't read my last BM to him when I asked him if his box was sent.
     
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  11. Badfish

    Badfish Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Tennessee

    My thoughts exactly. I just wanted to see what additional absurd excuses he'd throw out.
     
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  12. dmbforever

    dmbforever Initiate (0) May 8, 2013 Wisconsin
    Trader

    I don't think he is going to get any sympathy from any of the moderators on this one.

    He owes a box, plain & simple. Dodging it and acting like a 5 year old isn't helping his cause.
     
  13. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I'm too lazy to look it up now, but in a previous BT thread, dmbforever provided a succinct, clearly spelled out procedure for what we expect from those members accused of being a BT (in a nutshell, respond to the OP BT post, provide an explanation/excuse for what took place, and then provide an explanation outlining what steps the BT plans to take to resolve the problem).

    Based on what I/we have seen so far, I'm not optimistic about the likelihood of getting any cooperation from @CapCollector16
     
  14. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    He was onsite 9 minutes ago
     
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  15. Pando

    Pando Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2011 Connecticut

    Unbelievable! I texted him as well and no response. I was surprised that he even came back on this site but I guess welching doesn't bother @CapCollector16. I like to think that bitches like that get what's coming to them. Either way I will make good on his box. I've done it before for a guy in the league who lost his job, but there was an actual good reason for that and I was glad to help. Oddly enough this box will go to the same guy.....maybe @st9647v3 is the problem! :wink:
     
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  16. st9647v3

    st9647v3 Pooh-Bah (1,778) Dec 28, 2011 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I'd still like to think he will send the box...afterall, he did tell @Pando that he would - even though he was salty about it.

    Based on his positive trade feedback (and assumed love for beer and beer trading), it'd be the right thing to do anyway - as we all know, getting on shitlists around here won't be beneficial.

    And in the event he doesn't care and is an ------- well whatever, at least I got quality boxes from all the other guys in the league that did own up to their agreed upon obligations.

    Thanks again Pando for trying to do the right thing and for being a great commish to our league.
     
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  17. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    He was on 11 minutes ago. He needs to be sent packing.
     
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  18. Badfish

    Badfish Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Tennessee

    Also "engaged in conversation" and if based on previous posts, it's not with @Pando
     
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  19. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    There really should be a bad trader banner thrown in this guy's account until this is resolved.
     
  20. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Surprised this hasn't happened already, I assumed it was already done. Mods are always on top of this, I am sure it will happen soon.
     
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