Averagely Perfect ESB - Poll #5 - Base Malt(s)

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, Mar 10, 2017.

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Select one or more Base Malts.

Poll closed Mar 11, 2017.

  1. North American 2-Row Brewer's Malt

    1 vote(s)
    2.2%

  2. North American Pale Ale Malt

    1 vote(s)
    2.2%

  3. Maris Otter

    38 vote(s)
    84.4%

  4. Golden Promise

    12 vote(s)
    26.7%

  5. Pearl

    2 vote(s)
    4.4%

  6. Optic

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  7. Halcyon

    1 vote(s)
    2.2%

  8. Mild

    2 vote(s)
    4.4%

  9. Pilsner

    1 vote(s)
    2.2%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    -> Poll #4 <- determined that Generic Two Row or Pale Ale Malt or Pilsner are IN. Carapils and/or Other Crystal Malt(s) are IN. Sugar, Sugar Products, and/or Honey are potentially in.

    This poll will determine the specific base malt(s) (Generic Two Row, Pale Ale Malt, and/or Pilsner).

    This is a straight plurality poll, unless by some miracle more than one choice gets votes from more than 50% of respondents, in which case there will be another poll to sort out whether there will be multiple malts from this list in. Otherwise, winner take all. Consider jumping ship to a similar choice if your first choice is losing. You can select more than one choice. Want something that's not listed? Write it in.

    I recommend you think about this in terms of not only your personal preferences, but also in the context of the ABV and Final Gravity (and thus the attenuation) already selected, as well as any possible yeast strain selection that might be kicking around in your head.

    This poll will be open for 46 hours.

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please send them via beermail. Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand and not about how you would have asked the question differently.

    The Averagely Perfect ESB Recipe so far...

    Target ABV: 5.4%
    OG: 1.053
    FG: 1.012 (77.4% Apparent Attenuation)
    Grain Bill:
    ---Generic Two Row, Pale Ale Malt, and/or Pilsner IN (exact choice(s) TBD, this poll)
    ---Carapils and/or Other Crystal Malt(s) IN (exact choice(s) TBD, future poll)
    ---Sugar, Sugar Products, and/or Honey possibly in (TBD, future poll)
     
    #1 VikeMan, Mar 10, 2017
  2. csurowiec

    csurowiec Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 Maryland

    I would like to see Maris Otter in this beer but Halcyon or Golden Promise would be nice too.
    No American malt for this one.
     
    #2 csurowiec, Mar 10, 2017
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  3. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    I voted for Golden Promise because I have enjoyed the beers I've made with it and I believe it is fairly easy to obtain (for instance, I believe most LBHS's would probably have it). My feeling on some of the others is that they would be harder for some brewers to get their hands on.

    Then again, I'm not sure how much that really matters. If a brewer can only get Maris Otter and uses it in place of something like Optic, I have to imagine the beer will still turn out okay.
     
    #3 minderbender, Mar 10, 2017
  4. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Floor malted?
     
    #4 pweis909, Mar 10, 2017
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  5. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Going maris otter, gonna get floor malted.
     
    #5 SFACRKnight, Mar 10, 2017
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  6. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Honestly only have used Maris Otter, other then the US 2-row/Pale. Not sure how it will go, or if my LHBS has it but I went out on a limb and selected Golden Promise on this. I realize that is isn't being risky, but trying some "new" to me is part of this game too.
     
    #6 Granitebeard, Mar 10, 2017
  7. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    Was going to go maris but discovered LHBS currently only has bairds which isn't floor malted. The Golden Promise and Pearl are though.

    I hope no one would want American malt to make a British beer.
     
    #7 crcostel, Mar 10, 2017
  8. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Addendum (to poll #4 results, but posting here too to make sure it's seen): It was correctly pointed out to me vial beermail that according to the stated rules, 3 choices beyond the top pick should have advanced for further consideration.

    Therefore, Munich and/or Vienna are re-classified as possibly in, TBD. Amber/Brown remains on the outside looking in, and would need a groundswell of chatter to compel a buyers' remorse vote.
     
    #8 VikeMan, Mar 10, 2017
  9. redgorillabreath

    redgorillabreath Zealot (511) Mar 29, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Maris Otter for me; a good foundation for this one. Not to mention that I've got ~70 pounds in inventory right now.
     
    #9 redgorillabreath, Mar 10, 2017
  10. Brewday

    Brewday Zealot (721) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    Went with pale ale/maris but also like pearl/maris.
     
    #10 Brewday, Mar 10, 2017
  11. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah

    `Ya you are. :slight_smile:
     
    #11 inchrisin, Mar 11, 2017
  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Is all maris otter floor malted?
     
    #12 SFACRKnight, Mar 11, 2017
  13. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    I don't believe so. I see on some websites that a couple different malts have "floor malted" as options or different selection.
     
    #13 Granitebeard, Mar 11, 2017
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  14. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    Bairds is not. TF is. My store only carries Bairds which is why I voted for GP/Pearl instead.
     
    #14 crcostel, Mar 11, 2017
  15. redgorillabreath

    redgorillabreath Zealot (511) Mar 29, 2015 Pennsylvania

    #15 redgorillabreath, Mar 11, 2017
  16. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    I'd be good with maris otter or golden promise. Perhaps a combo of the two? Lord know I like combining base malts, lol.
     
    #16 Soneast, Mar 11, 2017
  17. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Combine multiple types of Maris otter. The recent malt article in Zymurgy included a table showing Lovibond differences of MO types. Presumably if they are kilned differently, there are flavor impacts. I have never done side by side tastings of MO types, but I bet there is something worth learning. I rallied for floor malted just because it sounds Extra Special.
     
    #17 pweis909, Mar 11, 2017
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  18. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Maris Otter it is.
     
    #18 VikeMan, Mar 11, 2017
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  19. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Good call. I might just do that.
     
    #19 Soneast, Mar 11, 2017
  20. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah

    The only thing I found in 10 minutes was a reddit:
    Sounds like floor malted is either complex or inconsistent depending on if you're a glass-is-half-full kinda guy.
     
    #20 inchrisin, Mar 12, 2017
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