NEIPA vorlauf?

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  1. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Yea or nay BA? What say you?
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I conduct a vorlauf for all of my beers (including the so called 'NE' style IPA). That is just my homebrewing practice.

    The fact that I conducted a vorlauf of my so called 'NE' style IPA in no way mitigated the turbid/murky/opaque appearance of that batch of beer.

    Cheers!
     
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  3. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    Always vorlauf my NE IPA's.
     
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  4. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I also vorlauf regardless of style. Again, this wort started so clear it's a shame its going to be full of polyphenols in two weeks.
     
  5. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    At work, I vorlauf all my beers until the wort looks brilliantly clear as if it had been filtered. I wouldn't want a turbid boil and increased tannin content.
     
  6. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Yep, all beers
     
  7. DVoors

    DVoors Zealot (627) Jan 6, 2014 Indiana

    What about adding Whirfloc to NE IPAs? I brewed my first attempt at the style 2 weeks ago, and shortly after adding the Whirfloc (as ive grown accustomed to doing for all my beers), I thought about the fact that adding Whirfloc may eliminate the hazy murkiness that the style is known for. Thoughts on whether I should have forgone the Whirfloc or whether I'll still get the hazy appearance from the flaked oats the recipe called for?
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I use rehydrated Irish Moss flakes as my kettle fining. I used Irish Moss when brewing my one batch of a so called 'NE' style IPA and it came out murky nonetheless.

    Cheers!
     
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  9. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    I vorlauf until clear, use whirlfloc and have even gelatin fined my IPA's and they still come out turbid and hazy. It's all how you hop... And I use a lot (typical IPA has around 1lb of hops for 5-gal batch). I don't use flour or other adjunts to create the haze, although I have used oats/wheat in some batches. But my all-grain batches without those have looked just as hazy/turbid.
     
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  10. kcq101

    kcq101 Initiate (0) Nov 10, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Yes I do...or I had? I'm now questioning why I do it for anything but, perhaps, lagers and saisons.

    I have always vorlaufed for wort clarity, in particular, larger pieces of grain. But I now use a mesh screen when transferring to my kettle. And I'm curious, even if I didn't filter, doesn't the sugar content in the wort considerably mitigate tannin extraction for the few pieces of grain that might otherwise pass through.

    If the aforementioned holds some truth, then why else? Won't the boiling, Irish moss/Whirfloc, wort chilling, gelatin fining, cold conditioning be enough to offset any other negative effects that vorlaufing would otherwise mitigate?

    If anything, I'd imagine I'm getting some tangent efficiency benefits from the vorlauf. But I question the merits and extra time invested.
     
  11. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I mash every beer for 90 minutes and recirculate the mash for the last 20 minutes. Wort is crystal clear going into the kettle.
     
  12. Beerfiend1

    Beerfiend1 Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2016 Virginia


    I always vorlauf. Boiling, Irish moss/Whirfloc, wort chilling, gelatin fining, and cold conditioning are really unrelated to the vorlauf step.
     
  13. kcq101

    kcq101 Initiate (0) Nov 10, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Why do you vorlauf, then?
     
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