A message from Sam (Dogfish Head) on current RateBeer changes

Discussion in 'Beer News' started by SamCalagione, Jun 6, 2017.

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  1. SamCalagione

    SamCalagione Devotee (305) Feb 22, 2004 Delaware

    Hello fellow beer advocates. I know most of you are aware of the news. We found out on Friday. I have had a number of fellow beer lovers and indie craft brewers reach out to me asking how we felt about it at Dogfish and if we intended to react in any way to it. Here is our reaction:

    https://www.dogfish.com/blog/message-sam-current-ratebeer-changes

    Dogfish Head has been part of the RateBeer.com network for quite some time. In fact, we’re fans of almost all websites, magazines, newsletters and blogs that help educate the public and inspire the consumption of great beer; publications that are passionate about sharing the love for our vibrant craft brewing renaissance that is now gaining traction around the globe. For many years, RateBeer, along with entities like BeerAdvocate, All About Beer, Draft, Celebrator, Ale Street, Brewing News and many more have championed this burgeoning and blossoming craft beer community in ways that are consistent with journalistic integrity.

    We were troubled by the announcement last week that ZX Ventures, which is fully owned by the global conglomerate Anheuser-Busch InBev, has purchased a portion of RateBeer. We believe this is a direct violation of the Society of Professional Journalists (SPJ) Code of Ethics and a blatant conflict of interest. The SPJ’s Code of Ethics includes a section called “Act Independently” and includes the following guidelines:
    • Avoid conflicts of interest, real or perceived. Disclose unavoidable conflicts.
    • Refuse gifts, favors, fees, free travel and special treatment, and avoid political and other outside activities that may compromise integrity or impartiality, or may damage credibility.
    • Be wary of sources offering information for favors or money; do not pay for access to news. Identify content provided by outside sources, whether paid or not.
    • Deny favored treatment to advertisers, donors or any other special interests, and resist internal and external pressure to influence coverage.
    • Distinguish news from advertising and shun hybrids that blur the lines between the two. Prominently label sponsored content.
    It is our strong opinion that ABI’s ownership of RateBeer, and other properties positioned to cover the craft brewing community like October and thebeernecessities.com is in direct conflict with multiple guidelines listed above.

    In the past, as executive editor of Pallet, a print magazine project that celebrated global craft beer culture, neither I nor Dogfish Head held any stake in the publication. As a company, Dogfish Head continually shows support for various craft beer publications through paid advertising campaigns.

    To that end, we have respectfully asked Anheuser-Busch InBev and RateBeer to remove all Dogfish Head beer reviews and mentions on the RateBeer website immediately. It just doesn’t seem right for a brewer of any kind to be in a position to potentially manipulate what consumers are hearing and saying about beers, how they are rated and which ones are receiving extra publicity on what might appear to be a legitimate, 100 percent user-generated platform. It is our opinion that this initiative and others are ethically dubious and that the lack of transparency is troubling.

    To our fellow independently-owned brewers, we encourage you to join us in this effort to ensure consumers continue to get the best and most accurate information about their beers. For everyone else, we encourage you to shift the sharing of your beer opinions and reviews to another platform that remains loyal to the principles of journalistic integrity. America’s Independence Day is just around the corner. Support the indie craft brewing movement!

    Cheers,
    Sam

    For more information on the Society of Professional Journalism, please log on to their website: https://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp.
     
  2. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Heartily congratulate this move! Cheers!
     
  3. rfgetz

    rfgetz Pooh-Bah (2,609) Nov 14, 2008 New Jersey
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    To quote some great philosopher somewhere... You're the Man Now, Dog
     
  4. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Sam, perhaps you can elaborate on how you can equate RateBeer's user-generated consumer review format to professional journalism? Not that I fault you for looking for an angle or that there isn't an inherent conflict of interest.
     
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  5. Wasatch

    Wasatch Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,050) Jun 8, 2005 Colorado
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    Very Nice Move!

    Cheers!
     
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  6. PurdueBrewCrew

    PurdueBrewCrew Initiate (0) May 28, 2015 North Carolina

    Pretentious nonsense.
     
  7. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Really. That Sam Calagione acts like owns Dogfish Head, or something The nerve.
     
  8. CommanderKeen

    CommanderKeen Initiate (0) May 16, 2017 Texas

    Dogfish Head can do whatever they want. Craft beer, at this point, is pretentious. Look at this site, it's filled with pretentious blowhards. Myself included. I refuse to participate on RateBeer.com and I don't blame anyone else who refuses to play ball on any site they don't want to play with. How is this any different from the NCAA refusing to host contests in North Carolina after the bathroom bill was passed?

    It isn't. As silly as you might think it is either way, organizations are free to take their toys and go home.
     
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  9. jmk

    jmk Savant (1,021) May 8, 2008 Illinois
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    Not a fan of the buy in, and agree that Sam, ABI, and Ratebeer can do whatever they want, but in what world does what goes there have anything to do with journalism?
     
  10. Eamonn-Cummings3

    Eamonn-Cummings3 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2014 New York

    Excellent decision. I've been meaning to pick up a summer sixer of Seaquench Ale.
     
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  11. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I'd be glad to support DFH for their position on this, so come to South Dakota and I will!
     
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  12. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (2,193) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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  13. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    Thank you, Sam! I respect your integrity!
     
  14. MNAle

    MNAle Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    If by that you mean the invented-out-of-whole-cloth "journalistic integrity" argument as applied to a user review site, then I agree.

    DFH can make whatever choice they want to, and I have no issue with those who make that choice based on the AB-Inbev partial ownership, but to invent this completely BS argument to justify it is pretentious nonsense.
     
  15. HermitDan

    HermitDan Pundit (965) Apr 30, 2016 New Jersey

    Wow! Respect to Sam and DFH. Gotta go buy a sixer from them now.
     
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  16. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    I could not agree more regarding conflict of interest. It is just too muddied and his statement was spot on.
     
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  17. lic217

    lic217 Pooh-Bah (2,090) Aug 10, 2010 Connecticut
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    Not the biggest fan of many of their beers, but Sam is a true beer advocate and for that I have a ton of respect for him..
     
  18. DucRacer900

    DucRacer900 Zealot (624) Aug 13, 2013 Massachusetts
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    While I agree that the "journalism" argument is a bit absurd, there is no good reason for a brewer to own a piece of a beer ratings site...
     
  19. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    The brewer that got me into craft. Still respected to this day.
     
  20. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Would be a real shame to see such rating sites become biased....
     
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