Charged at a bottle share?

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  1. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    At his house or hosted by a professional establishment?

    I attend a share once every other month at a restaurant, and everyone is charged to participate whether they bring beer or not, because there are dump buckets to deal with, ice buckets and bins for the bottles (which usually ends up being over 100 bottles), glasses, water service, and food service for just about everyone.

    Essentially it's a corkage fee, since no one orders beers that the restaurant has, and the fact that we take up an entire room, or an entire bar depending on the venue.

    But if we're talking about a person's house, that's...kind of embarrassing. Beer is meant to be shared. If you aren't willing to share it among friends who are also sharing, then keep it in your cellar and list it on your will to be buried with you.
     
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  2. Junior

    Junior Pooh-Bah (1,883) May 23, 2015 Michigan
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    Charging at a share seem rather strange as well, like he was dumping beer he had too much of or and been holding for too long. Especially if this was not communicated up front. What happened to the beers that the group brought to share? Was the beer that guy brought out stuff that the group wanted to try?
     
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  3. Gajo74

    Gajo74 Pooh-Bah (2,795) Sep 14, 2014 New York
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    I agree with many posters that asking people for at a bottle share is both tacky and being an ungracious host. If said host was trying to offset the cost of expensive bottles in his/her cellar, that is just as bad. Imagine if I buy a $100 bottle of wine and save for a special occasion. Imagine I then throw a dinner party and charge my guests for the bottle. That is just plain WRONG!!!
     
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  4. Jag237

    Jag237 Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2014 Virginia
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    I've never been to a tasting like this and it is an odd request but I also feel like the idea of a bottle share is for everyone to bring a few things so if the guy was providing all the beer himself I feel like there's nothing wrong with asking for a little compensation. However it should have been communicated beforehand.
     
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  5. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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  6. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Yeah, bad form to be surprised at the party to pay money.

    However I'd see nothing wrong if a text or email went out to invitees that said something like "Hey there is a bottle of Utopias at store "X" for $200. I'd be willing to go get it for our bottle share if we get enough people willing to chip in some money to help pay for it. Any interest just let me know"

    Something like that seems reasonable, and if not enough people willing to chip in the host just doesn't have to go buy it.
     
  7. Beer_Line

    Beer_Line Initiate (0) May 29, 2015 California

    Should have told the host to F-off. Ridiculous:angry:
     
  8. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Sounds like you need new friends to me.

    It's the same with cigarettes. I won't sell a loose cigarette to someone. It's just a cigarette. Take it.
     
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  9. Number1Framer

    Number1Framer Savant (1,040) Mar 13, 2016 Wisconsin
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    I have a couple boxes of good BA stouts, BWs, rarities, etc that I've been accruing in the hopes of having people over for a share this fall. I was just going to toss open the boxes on the table and let everyone else decide what to open first. Not charging any money or asking anyone to bring anything because 1- I have too much beer to not be generous with it and 2- asking people for money in my own home is a tacky ass tightwad move.

    If I were OP, I wouldn't go back to that place. Seems like the 'level' of the bottles being shared should be made clear beforehand vs asking for money to even thing out.
     
  10. HopsDubosc

    HopsDubosc Pundit (803) Apr 24, 2015 Vermont

    BINGO
     
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  11. Wolfhead

    Wolfhead Pundit (795) Sep 1, 2009 Illinois

    That would be called a Sale, not a Share

    I think "this guy" knows my friend as he and his wife were invited over to "this guys" house for dinner and my friend asked what they could bring, "this guy" said a 7lb roast

    True story and my friend brought one
     
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  12. djs467

    djs467 Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2011 Colorado

    So what bottles did this jerk offer up?
     
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  13. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    *WE MUST KNOW!*
    *WE MUST KNOW!*
     
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  14. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I have paid before at shares for a couple of reasons:
    1. Share was part of a charity/fundraising event
    2. Cover the cost of food to be provided at the share

    In both cases, I was aware beforehand. I have no problem throwing in a little cash (especially if it is for a good cause). Around me, there is a share about once a quarter for charity where everyone is asked to bring a bottle and $5 - it usually ends up raising around $350 because a number of folks are more generous than the $5 donation and there are often some really good bottles shared.
     
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  15. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Only time I have heard of this is when a local pub hosts a bottle share. They ask for $10 at the door, but they serve appetizers all night. Other than that sort of thing, I can't imagine a person asking for cash at a share unless 1) it was for something specific (e.g. food) or 2) it was for some sort of cause, or 3) it was for some special beer (e.g. Utopia, as mentioned above) that would clearly cost A LOT of money. In the latter case, it MUST be announced before the share. Otherwise, that's a crappy move.
     
  16. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    I've hosted several bottle shares - most have been just exactly that - a share where everyone brought bottles and food. However, one of them I prepared food and asked (in advance on the invite) to chip in for food.
     
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  17. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Exactly. If you don't think I'm "worthy," then hell, don't invite me (I wont' be insulted I can assure you).

    If someone spent a boatload of money on obtaining a lot of rare and or limited stuff, I could see mentioning this to the other participants, see if they had an interest in partaking, and then asking if they could share in the cost. However, I think you need to make that clear in advance. A friend of mine obtained a bottle of HOTD Dave some years back, and he asked the other participants to help with the cost of the bottle. However, this was spelled out well in advance, so there was no surprise. That's what I don't like about the OP's experience. The arrangement wasn't spelled out in advance.

    Over the years, I've been to a number of great bottle shares. In the beginning, the stuff I brought often times wasn't all that great, comparatively speaking (though it was the best I could do, and I often thought I was actually being pretty generous). Now a days, I've been around for a while and often times bring pretty good stuff. So I feel as if things have sort of evened out over time. Still can't imagine ever asking (or wanting) anyone to help me pay for anything (no matter how limited, rare or costly). That just seems weird.
     
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  18. moshea

    moshea Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2007 Michigan

    I have a few questions if you do not mind;

    1 - Did you know there was a charge prior to attending?
    2 - How much was the charge
    3 - What beers were provided for the charge?

    Cheers
     
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  19. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Damn...I coulda charged $8.50 for Hidden Cove Summer and a hot dog at my house this Sunday...

    If under the circumstances described it was an individual's house and "normal" bring some/drink some bottle share guidelines were the expectation, it seems quite tactless to me to ask people to essentially pay a cover at the door. Under other circumstances people have mentioned (charity, arranged "dinner" type tasting with food, contributing to a truly expensive beer, or discussed and agreed to beforehand, etc) the expectation is changed and the etiquette seems completely different.

    Nobody's money is any good at my house when it comes to food and beverage - you want to bring something to eat or drink, that's cool, but I wouldn't ever be thinking of cash. I was taught you don't show up to someone's house for an "event" empty-handed even if all you can manage is a loaf of bread, so that essentially sets my expectation. People usually learn, those who don't sometimes they just f-f-f-fade away.
     
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  20. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    @crow121 you are leaving us in the most lurchiest of lurches.

    By tomorrow morning our panties may be unwadded and our talons may already be gripping a new mystery.

    Deets nao, man!
     
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