Scientists Create Probiotic Beer

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  1. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Short summary: Food scientists at the University of Singapore made a beer that uses a beneficial probiotic bacteria strain (Lactobacillus paracasei L26), which can survive in beer to impart digestion and immunity benefits to drinkers similar to probiotic yogurt. It is a 3.5% sour beer described as having a sharp, tart sour flavor. They have filed a patent and are looking for industry partners to work with.

    Read the full story on the University of Singapore website: http://news.nus.edu.sg/press-releases/novel-probiotic-beer-boosts-immunity

    Hey @Sixpoint I've encouraged you to apply your "mad science" to real science before... here's another opportunity! :wink:

    Also paging @Peter_Wolfe (the only actual beer scientist I am aware of here)
     
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  2. SCW

    SCW Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2004 New York

    this is awesome - thanks for sharing
     
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  3. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    This was posted in the Homebrewing Forum yesterday. I do think that it's worth a little bit of discussion from a wider audience, though.

    They're basically trying to patent the making of a Berliner Weisse with a specific strain of Lactobacillus by saying that it has health benefits.

    The first flaw is that they'd have to demonstrate something unique about their process. Nothing about it, including the strain of lactobacillus used, looks unique.

    The second flaw, is that they need to perform a series of randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies to determine if they can make the claims regarding digestion and immunity. That would be even more doubtful than the first bit.

    However, more press for sour beer is always good, so there's that.
     
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  4. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Health beers? Problem is that with low-purine or gluten-free, that the demand is so light that there are only a few on the market. Probiotic will be similarly limited. I'd give up beer before switching to a handful of styles/brands because of a health issue. I don't drink beer just to drink any old beer - I like specific ones. That would be like if you were a vegetarian and loved peppers and onions, but were told you can now only have beets, which you don't like.
     
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  5. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    And, one day years ago I was stomping through deep woods photographing mushrooms in a rainstorm, exhausted, very hungry, angling towards home, only to find some Activia Yogurt in the day before shopping fridge. I wolfed down two containers and settled back for a bit of a rest. Anyway, without too much detail, I've since had a dicey relationship with that product, Jamie Lee Curtis, and most probiotic products for their health claims. I really do like some Kombucha though. I can see it now: Singapore Sling Sour Ale; The Beer that Really Makes You Get Up and Go!
     
  6. Buck89

    Buck89 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,782) Feb 7, 2015 Tennessee
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    IMO probiotics are generally safe in most (not all people). They have been shown to reduce the risk of antibiotic-associated GI disorders and provide benefit in some other very specific conditions. However, there is little to no high-quality evidence that probiotics "boost immunity" in healthy individuals. Thanks, rant over.
     
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  7. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    It would certainly be difficult to prove, at that.
     
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  8. HoppingMadMonk

    HoppingMadMonk Grand Pooh-Bah (5,208) Mar 3, 2017 New Jersey
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    The alternative health craze believes that when fasting your digestive system then fuels your Immune system. The state of ones colon is significant in this belief but like stated already hard evidence is not common. Many people have a harsh reaction to probiotics because they are already relatively healthy and don't need that much more. Too much of probiotics is not a fun experience
     
  9. StoutElk_92

    StoutElk_92 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,045) Oct 30, 2015 Massachusetts
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    I was under the impression that all beers with lactobacillus were pretty healthy for the gut and digestion.
     
  10. DonicBoom

    DonicBoom Aspirant (283) Mar 26, 2015 Virginia

    Not if probiotic supplementation has a profound effect on the immune system, as many claim. There are double-blind studies that look at whether people taking probiotics get colds at the same rate as a control group taking placebo. Or to save time and reduce number of subjects needed, researchers can directly administer rhinovirus, then see if there's a meaningful difference in infection rates/severity. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3560336/
     
  11. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Not to get into an OT discussion, but that meta-analysis uses the word "marginal" and discusses some rather important limitations of the studies that were included.

    On top of that, taking probiotics is MUCH different than drinking a fermented beverage that is made with them.
     
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  12. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    It would certainly be awesome if this was the case, but most beneficial microbes in the gut aren't that hardy and aren't thrilled with alcohol and the residual sugars in beer doesn't help either.
     
  13. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Same. Actually I was under the impression all beers had some level of probiotic in general. I mean, if it weren't healthy flora in all beer, wouldn't it be detrimental?
     
  14. DonicBoom

    DonicBoom Aspirant (283) Mar 26, 2015 Virginia

    I think we're in agreement. My point was just that a lot of good research has already been conducted. We can glean with reasonable confidence that ingesting probiotics has little or no immunity benefit for the general adult population.
     
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