Should we re-enable replying to trade posts?

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by Todd, Jul 11, 2017.

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  1. dolomite128

    dolomite128 Crusader (468) Sep 17, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Absolutely - yes.
     
  2. MarkJC1018

    MarkJC1018 Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2009 Massachusetts

  3. Yabu

    Yabu Savant (1,150) Feb 4, 2015 California
    Trader

    One problem with the completed trade forum, is people can (and do) post bogus trades to jack up trade value. Reddit has the feature that both members have to validate the trade. Then everyone can see the details of the trade.
     
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  4. nedvalton

    nedvalton Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2012 Alabama

    Bring it back
     
  5. Brewhead55

    Brewhead55 Zealot (512) Apr 21, 2014 Missouri
    Trader

    Fair enough, then I guess it's a No from me :-) I like my other idea, leave it up to the OP to decide. That way if they want feedback they can get it... if not, they can turn commenting off.
     
  6. ELS

    ELS Savant (1,053) Apr 22, 2012 Florida
    Trader

    Absolutely bring it back. It makes beer trading a lot more fun and educational if you're making a bad trade.
     
  7. Brian29

    Brian29 Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2013 Ohio
    Trader

    Vote Nay,

    The troll society is too strong. Everyone has an opinion on completely arbitrary values. Arbitrary.
    Traders set values on beers that no one has ever had. Ive been told countless times by traders that their beer x was better than beer y and hadnt had either. I prefer not to read trolling posts about how someone is "way off" and a myriad of reasons. Would rather people just be happy and remember this is beer.
     
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  8. lefty17

    lefty17 Initiate (0) Mar 26, 2015 Illinois
    Trader

    No, I like taking advantage of uninformed traders.
     
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  9. Hopsiam14

    Hopsiam14 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2013 Minnesota

  10. BeerThirty

    BeerThirty Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2012 California
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    I am in favor of bringing back the ability to reply to ISO:FT posts. I have fallen out of touch with values, plus have no idea what the new acronyms stand for, and would really appreciate the ability to catch up to current times via peoples replies (even with the trolls lurking, it never took long to recognize who was truly being helpful and who was trolling and deserved to be ignored). Hell, that's how I learned the first time around. No clue how new traders learn today. I'm getting old:slight_frown:

    Plus, reading the replies use to be half the fun. It made the ISO/FT threads more entertaining and definitely made things way more spicy.

    How about reinstating replies for a set period of time and taking another poll? The traders that it would help the most (new to the block) have more than likely never been on the forums when replies were enabled. Maybe give them a little taste and see if they think it is sweet or sour.
     
    #230 BeerThirty, Jul 12, 2017
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  11. aasher

    aasher Grand Pooh-Bah (4,557) Jan 27, 2010 Indiana
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    Honestly Todd, as a member here for a long time I think that less people use that part of the forums because with the lack of replies, it seems robotic. It puts BA at a disadvantage compared to sites like Facebook or Reddit. I'm all for replies. Just my two cents.
     
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  12. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    That's entertainment!

    This in a nutshell covers why the vast majority of those in favor are saying yes. These other comments like "helping the newbies out", as others have brought up, does the PM function not work for you? I've PM'ed a few people when I have seen requests for really old IPAs in the Chicago area. It's really not difficult to do. Opening up replies is all about entertainment value imo. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with this but this is what it is.

    @cfh64 made a great post just above and I agree with most everything he wrote. I was reading through the thread while thinking about the topic so might be a bit repetitive here. Imo, many of the peanut gallery commentators/Beer Street Journal columnist types do have ulterior motives in protecting their regional 'beer value'. And if I never see another 'Great trader here" or "Someone hook this guy up!" comment in the trading forum it will be much too soon.

    Regarding letting the poster switch on/off replies, this would not be a good idea imo. It's either all on or all off. Selective comments will just result in people switching it off when seeking what many might see as lopsided deals. So feedback when it would be most needed, in some minds, would not be available per the OP's choice of switching it off.

    I appreciate BA opening up this discussion and soliciting feedback. I do agree in some instances feedback could be beneficial but I think the negative aspects far outweigh the positive. And a simple PM can be used to be constructive to the poster. My vote is no.
     
  13. ScottO

    ScottO Zealot (722) Mar 4, 2012 California
    Trader

    I vote yes.
     
  14. Aguirre

    Aguirre Zealot (552) Jan 24, 2009 Missouri
    Trader

    nah, I don't miss it. So much threadshitting.
     
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  15. DVMin98

    DVMin98 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,125) Nov 1, 2010 North Carolina
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Nope. Too many people respond with less than stellar words. You should have at least a minimum amount of characters if you do, but still, its just a place for people to troll others.
     
  16. Darkaeon03

    Darkaeon03 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2014 Texas

    Absolutely!

    I fee that it creates a more balanced market to allow feedback and helps new traders because it's easier to gauge whether an offer is good or not based on feedback to the post, and encourages more traders to provide feedback if they don't have to go through PMs for everything.
     
  17. PDXAmbassador

    PDXAmbassador Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2015 Florida
    Trader

    No! Please don't bring it back.

    (1) comments are enjoyed by those who comment, but usually just annoying to the original poster. Comments on Reddit tend to be "no way that'll get done!" Or "you'll need to add" -- which help no one. TB ("Talk Beer" forum) replies are often either mocking the OP, or spinning off into unrelated topics. BA is the only place that is clean and simple and safe.

    (2) seeing new ISO:FT posts at the top (instead of whichever post got the most replies) is helpful for traders.

    (3) BA Is unique in disallowing comments -- and that is a selling point! Stay unique and stick to your guns. Comments do not improve the specific service.

    One helpful thing for BA Admins to maybe work on is warning when beers are potentially infected. When a beer is announced to have infection problems, a ton of people try to quickly unload there's on this forum. On Reddit / TalkBeer people can reply to warn trader's, but on BA there's no checks and balances. Maybe the admins could flag posts of infected brews somehow. Just an idea.
     
    #237 PDXAmbassador, Jul 12, 2017
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  18. Dexterski

    Dexterski Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2014 New Jersey

    Please do not. It sounds good in theory, but you end up with trolls who think they are the beer police. It's simple enough to just message someone.
     
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  19. Dexterski

    Dexterski Initiate (0) Feb 8, 2014 New Jersey

    Really well said. I want to like this 1000X times.
     
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  20. TGanyone

    TGanyone Pundit (918) Jan 29, 2014 Iowa
    Trader

    If it bugs you that much than post your trade and just wait till you get a pm. You can ignore your thread altogether.

    Maybe somebody should put a poll together. Curious to see where it would land.
     
    #240 TGanyone, Jul 12, 2017
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