Dopplebock's - Where is the love?

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  1. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Pooh-Bah (2,353) Mar 19, 2012 California
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    Since one my enlightened friends bought Spaten Optimator for a college party in the mid-80s, I have loved Dopplebocks. Today, I usually buy from a rotation of Celebrator, Optimator, and Salvator, but when I go out to beer pubs/breweries, I rarely find dopplebocks (only at Gordan Biersch and a local German restauarant).

    It would be neat to see some of the American craft breweries producing this style, even if only seasonal. Any ideas on the lack of love? Other styles passed it by?
     
    #1 QuakeAttack, Oct 12, 2012
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  2. alexipa

    alexipa Initiate (0) Oct 7, 2011 Colorado

    Great Divide Wolfgang is amazing. Try that if you haven't.

    I agree that the style is great and lacking in the states (along with lots of other classic styles).
     
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  3. kingofhop

    kingofhop Initiate (0) May 9, 2010 Oklahoma
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    Dopplebocks are one of my favorite styles. Prefer the Germans, but Shiner made one a few yrs ago (Commemorator) that was really good. I don't think anything "has passed it by". A beer infused w/ liver and fava beans tends to invoke more chatter on beer geek internet forums, but the great classic styles will always remain just that.
     
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  4. AJacob81

    AJacob81 Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2010 Illinois

    Great Lakes Doppelrock is a good American craft doppelbock. Capital in Madison, WI also makes several good ones. Autumnal Fire is a fall seasonal doppelbock of theirs, very tasty.

    Beyond these and Wolfgang, there isn't much though. Definitely a shame.
     
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  5. comfortablynirm

    comfortablynirm Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Troegs & Victory make excellent ones
     
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  6. DieHippieDie

    DieHippieDie Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 North Carolina

    On the subject of dark German beers, where have all the schwarzbiers gone?!
     
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  7. denver10

    denver10 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,155) Nov 17, 2010 New Mexico
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    Yes to this.

    I wish they would offer this is in six packs. And not just seasonally.
     
    #7 denver10, Oct 12, 2012
  8. JuniperJesus

    JuniperJesus Pundit (805) Feb 26, 2011 Illinois

    I just picked up a 4pk of Autumnal Fire today. I'm looking forward to it!
     
    #8 JuniperJesus, Oct 12, 2012
  9. CellarGimp

    CellarGimp Initiate (0) Sep 14, 2011 Missouri

    Maybe has to do with the triple decoction mashing, extended boils, long fermentations and even longer lagerings. Not the easiest or most economical beer to make, at least not one that will compete with the German classics. Probably lots of shortcuts could be taken, but at what cost to the product quality? I am a big fan of them though.

    Bells Consecrator comes to mind as one that is out there. Expensive beer though. About double Salvator.
     
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  10. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,999) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Love the Troegenator from Troegs.
     
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  11. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Pooh-Bah (2,353) Mar 19, 2012 California
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    Thanks for the details on the brewing process. This makes sense in terms of time to market, and as you stated, economics in general...
     
    #11 QuakeAttack, Oct 12, 2012
  12. Vonstein15

    Vonstein15 Initiate (0) Jan 15, 2010 Ohio

    Thanks for the heads up on this,Great divide puts out sme outstanding brews.Paulaner is at the top of my list.
     
    #12 Vonstein15, Oct 12, 2012
  13. jtmartino

    jtmartino Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 California

    Andechs makes the best doppelbock I've ever head. Weihenstephaner also makes a killer one.
     
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  14. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina

    right here.
     
    #14 VncentLIFE, Oct 12, 2012
  15. davey101

    davey101 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    Hooker liberator!
     
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  16. hopsbreath

    hopsbreath Savant (1,157) Aug 28, 2009 Florida

    I'm a big fan of the style and this is the perfect time of year for it. Just bought an Wheihenstephaner today actually. Check out S'muttonator for a good American version if you can.
     
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  17. dasenebler

    dasenebler Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2008 Maine

    I agree that Smuttonator is one of the best domestic examples of the style. Victory St. Victorious is another one. Andechser Doppelbock Dunkel is one of the crowning examples of the style, but the more I drank it in Germany, the more I realized that it's a REALLY sweet beer. Tons of malt complexity, but pretty syrupy.
     
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  18. xnicknj

    xnicknj Initiate (0) May 25, 2009 Pennsylvania

    maybe if they start barrel aging some of them...

    seriously though, troegenator is really tasty
     
    #18 xnicknj, Oct 12, 2012
  19. BeerIsland

    BeerIsland Maven (1,251) Feb 9, 2003 Pennsylvania

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  20. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    Quite a few breweries in WI brew dopplebocks, though you might not have luck finding any of them outside of the state. Capital, as mentioned earlier, has a bunch all of which are tasty, IMO. There are even a couple barrel aged variations, one from Hinterland another from Sprecher. Must have something to do with all the German heritage. :astonished:
     
    #20 Soneast, Oct 12, 2012
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