Floodland Brewing

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  1. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    I dropped way too much money in college to fly to Chicago and see the final SP show at the Metro. Real talk.
     
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  2. JonnyBeers

    JonnyBeers Savant (1,211) Oct 24, 2012 Canada (BC)

    I'd trade some of this conversation about lineups and bands for some Floodland bottles :smirk:
     
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  3. jpbebeau

    jpbebeau Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2011 Washington

    Just a couple months ago I was with a friend and his family driving across southern Illinois (from Scratch Brewing to Perennial) and after everyone had picked their favorite tracks, I think they were surprised when I chose this one.
     
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  4. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    Sorry for partying.

    And I won't get my bottles until the Fall. Gotta do something.
     
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  5. JonnyBeers

    JonnyBeers Savant (1,211) Oct 24, 2012 Canada (BC)

    coming up to Van in the Fall too? Can plan a bottleshare :grinning:
     
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  6. EdwardAbbey

    EdwardAbbey Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2015 Washington

    They should not have been surprised. That song harkens back to ageless longing, which begins shortly after birth, and never quite leaves us. It has a special kind of sad and wistful beauty...

    Thirty-Three, 1979, We Only Come Out at Night, and, especially, the soft threnody that is Stumbleine, perpetually strike a chord with me, too. I have listened to all of them countless times, whenever I needed to (or didn't), over the years. It was, and is, an incredible album, and I'm literally not even talking about half of it...
     
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  7. 66jzmstr

    66jzmstr Pundit (960) Jul 17, 2005 Washington

    Thirty-Three was my favorite off that double-album, primarily because it could have been a solid My Bloody Valentine song but with lyrics that were actually decipherable. :grinning:
     
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  8. vurt

    vurt Grand Pooh-Bah (4,504) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    As a Cocteau Twins fan, I think decipherable lyrics are overrated.

    AleSmith makes a "seasonal" for Valentine's Day (a.k.a. "Single Awareness Day") called "My Bloody Valentine." It also appears that Ratio Beerworks makes a beer called "Loveless." Given that it is a "sour raspberry dark saison," I hope it is as murky and magenta as the cover of its namesake.
     
  9. paysse

    paysse Initiate (0) May 15, 2009 Washington

    This thread rules.
     
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  10. Texwild

    Texwild Zealot (550) May 1, 2008 Washington

    Well, we would all do well to understand what it takes to run a manufacturing business with schedules and responsibilities that don't fit well with lines for beer...this is not our greatest problem. Seriously.

    Can we return to talking about BEER and not the politics of beer? Isn't that the point? Here's one, I just enjoyed a Fulton Culture Project Golden Ale aged in Oak Barrels and it was amazing. Balanced, slightly tart, crisp with just enough barrel contribution to bring the whole dance into focus...and back to Floodlands.

    I opened a saison aged on peaches and inoculated with one of Adams magical yeast/bacteria blends that he generously shared with me a while back and that beer still calls me back. The carb was spot on, the tartness was present but restrained (like a rhythm guitarist, not an overwhelming solo...think back to the balance of So many of the songs on Gish), the peach was present and so fucking fresh but not overwhelming...It was one of those beers that I drink and think, "fuck, how did he do That?"...it's my favorite experience when drinking great beer.
     
  11. vurt

    vurt Grand Pooh-Bah (4,504) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    I feel privileged to have had the chance to drink great beers that affect me the same way great music does.
     
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  12. JasonJYoung

    JasonJYoung Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2015 Washington
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    @Texwild please don't misunderstand. Not a direct bash on Holy Mountain or Fremont. It's really directed at various issues with the releases: lines, personal time commitments, increasing prices, growing buffoonery in lines, mules (ie Whale Hunters, hoarders, Instagram whor@$, etc.

    I think most people appreciate the changes and ongoing efforts by Fremont and Holy Mountain with regards to special releases.

    Knock on wood, but Reubens doesn't seem to experience many problems at their special releases (at least for now).

    It's gonna be real interesting to watch Floodland Brewing during their bottle-releases to the public. Especially, if and when Floodland blows up.
     
  13. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    People who went back through for multiple UT bottles ruin it for everyone else.

    Snail is the best song on Gish, by the way.
     
  14. kingsleyr

    kingsleyr Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2005 Washington

    Bump. Maybe it's late, but based on the latest email, let us know if any volunteers can help processing fruit, or anything later in the process @paysse. It only makes us more passionate to be involved.
     
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  15. paysse

    paysse Initiate (0) May 15, 2009 Washington

    Thanks for the offer. Mostly done for this year, although I processed some fruit and froze it for some barrels that aren't ready yet (and to help slow down the insanity of the summer and spread it into the colder months...). This year I got through it with the help of a bunch of friends, we'll see if I can swing it next year with what will definitely be far more fruit than what I used this year.
     
  16. Hpepe4

    Hpepe4 Initiate (0) Mar 26, 2017 Washington

    @paysse I ran into Steve from Seapine today in Bottleworks and he was wearing a Floodland shirt. Do you have any of those in size small? I'll pay well for one. Thanks.
     
  17. paysse

    paysse Initiate (0) May 15, 2009 Washington

    I just made a few of those for friends. I'll have some other Floodland shirts sometime soon, I have a few designs that I'm working on and that friends are doing, but I wanted to get beer out first.
     
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  18. jpbebeau

    jpbebeau Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2011 Washington

    For those curious about what kind of beers we can expect from Adam, the first bottles are set for release to club members. @paysse was kind enough to provide tasting notes I can include in my Untappd check-ins.

    Protection Spells

    Protection Spells is a blend of saison and acid beer fermented and aged in oak and refermented on pluots.

    The 2017 harvest blend was created from a spelt beer fermented and aged in an oak puncheon with a mixed culture. This acid beer was blended with young wheat saison fermented in an open top oak tank and aged in white wine barrels. This blend was refermented on ‘Hawaiian Punch’ pluots grown in Selah, Washington by Collins Family Orchard. Collins Family is a fourth generation farm which has been in operation for over 100 years in the Yakima valley. After refermentation it was again refermented in the bottle, and will continue to develop over time.

    Bottled 10/17/17.

    Plums are possibly my favorite fruit to make beer with. These plums from Collins Family Orchard were beautiful, and amazing to eat. They are technically pluots, as Collins does a lot of hybridization, but without knowing that you would think to eat and see them that they are plums. One of the reasons I enjoy making beer with plums so much is that they rarely taste literally like themselves. While raspberries and peaches when fermented taste like raspberries and peaches, plums evolve into all sorts of other interesting flavors. In this case the Hawaiian Punch plums tasted very tropical and looked like a blood red beet, but after refermentation we ended up with a beer whose aroma and flavor hit with rose water and grapefruit, backed with some mulling spices. This is a beer that represents my interest in making and drinking beers which balance fruit character rather than hitting you over the head with it. It has a lot of fruit character, but the fruit is balanced with hops, yeast, and some of the base malt, as well as a supporting minerality. Protection Spells is spritzy and refreshing, with a light and crisp acidity. It's probably more akin to a long poured vermouth soda or an Aperol spritz than beer. I've been enjoying drinking it quite a bit, and I've stashed a few bottles away for the summer so I can drink them in the back yard when it's hot out. The carbonation is moderate so it works to open it at fridge or cellar temp. Bottled 10/17/17. 400 bottles available. The beer is tasting great now and the conditioning should continue to develop. Because it's a lower abv, lighter beer I'd expect that it peaks this spring/summer and I wouldn't recommend cellaring it for more than a year.

    Drive out the Spirits

    Drive Out the Spirits is a blend of saison and wild ale fermented and aged in oak and refermented on blueberries.

    The 2017 harvest blend was created from a spelt beer brewed with aged hops and fermented and aged in an oak puncheon with our wild culture. This wild acid beer was blended with young wheat saison fermented in an open top oak tank and aged in white wine barrels. This blend was refermented on ‘Early Blue’ blueberries grown in Mossyrock, Washington by Glenn Aldrich, whose family has been growing blueberries in the same spot since 1944. After refermentation it was again refermented in the bottle, and will continue to develop over time.

    Bottled 09/21/17.

    An old school blend, using young (3+ month old) saison to blend down the acidity of an older wild beer. The wild puncheon in this was beginning to develop some nice lambic-esque funk, particularly some toasted sesame character. The saison that I cut the acidity with was very creamy from the heavy use of raw wheat, and had a bit of lemon Brett character. The resulting beer is dry, with a driving lactic acidity balanced with prominent minerality and a raw wheat creaminess. There is blueberry skin tannin, black pepper, tobacco, and a dry but creamy blueberry character that really develops in the finish. Bottled 09/21/17. 450 bottles available. The culture in this beer progresses slowly, and at 4 months in the bottle the condition is just beginning to come into its own. Of the three January beer this is the one that will most benefit from a bit of additional time, and I think it is likely to taste even better in March/April and beyond than it does now.

    The club member bottle has also been announced:

    Field Blend - Cherry, is the first in a series of Field Blend beers. The 2017 harvest cherry iteration of this beer includes Balaton (organic), Montmorency, and foraged Cornelian cherries, all from Washington. Two bottles of this Field Blend are included as part of your Oakworks membership. No additional bottles will be available, the Oakworks allocation is the entirety of the production and there is no draught.

    Cinnamon in beers isn't usually my thing, but NW pie cherries in particular tend to have an amazing and prominent cinnamon flavor, and that comes through big in this beer. A few folks who have had this have said that it reminds them of pie. There's a bit of crust from the spelt and wheat in the base beers, the cornelian cherries add a floral, strawberry/cranberry character that makes this really different from a lot of other cherry beers, and the inclusion of the cherry pits gives a nice coconut and vanilla custard background note. The acidity on this one is just to my liking, very moderate. The goal with most of these beers is drinkability, and this hits that nail on the head for me. Bottled 09/14/17. I think this is drinking great now and will likely be at its peak over the next 6 months.

    Excited to give these a try in just over a week! (If I can bring myself to open the bottles immediately.)
     
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  19. WA_Brian

    WA_Brian Pundit (780) Nov 17, 2015 Washington
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    I don't think I've seen the term "acid beer" before. Does this have a special meaning?
     
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  20. paysse

    paysse Initiate (0) May 15, 2009 Washington

    It's a term I've used for a long time, and my vague memory is that I picked it up back in the day from Belgian brewers, but I could be wrong about that. It certainly has been colloquial amongst myself and brewer friends for many years.

    Acidity is, like bitterness, just a spectrum... all beers fall on the acidic end of the pH spectrum to varying degrees. I say "acid beer" as shorthand to mean a beer fermented with a mixed culture including bacteria which shows more acidity than a standard ale/lager.

    Saison, imo, are not intentionally acidic beers. They may acidify with age, but I no longer intentionally put bacteria into my saison cultures. At Floodland they have bacteria from the open fermentation, and mostly I hop them to ****** acid formation. My "acid beers" are made with cultures which are wild or which are meant to mimic wild cultures (have bacteria in them intentionally) so that they do acidify as blending components.
     
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