The New IPA

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  1. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    Homebrewer PSA...Scott Janish is putting out a book called The New IPA: Scientific Guide to Hop Aroma and Flavor, sounds like by the end of the year. Not sure if many of you follow his blog, but I'm a long time fan of his so pretty psyched to hear he is compiling his work into a book format.
    http://scottjanish.com/book-announcement/

    Maybe @OldSock will have some comments about it...?
     
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  2. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    Scott's has been combing through peer-reviewed studies about hops for months, not to mention talking to their authors. If that's all the book was going to be it would be interesting, but he's going the next step and testing out the recommendations in split batches, getting lab test results, playing with interesting yeast strains and ingredients. The resulting beers have been delicious, and occasionally weird and surprising. Can't wait to read the finished product (hopefully a little before everyone else).
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    "Scott's has been combing through peer-reviewed studies..."

    That is awesome news! I look forward to buying this book. There is a fair bit of information available on-line based upon demonstrations (as compared to genuine experimentation). It would appear that Scott's book will be on the next level.

    Cheers to Scott Janish!!!!
     
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  4. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    The table of contents looks very enticing.
     
  5. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Sounds cool, and looks like it should have a lot of info that relates to beers beyond IPAs
     
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  6. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Also, if he's wanting more information on hop related compounds, like terpenes and thiols, Nyseos in France and U. C. Leuven in Belgium have copious amounts of information regarding the profiles of different hop varietals/cultivars. There are also quite a few labs here in Canada and the US that are interested in the subject and have access to the mass. spec. and liquid chromatography instruments that are necessary for the comparative testing that he's referencing.
     
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  7. ECCS

    ECCS Pundit (755) Oct 28, 2015 Illinois

    Thanks for posting
     
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  8. BeerMaverick

    BeerMaverick Zealot (718) Dec 14, 2010 Connecticut

    Fantastic! Also excited about Sapwood Cellars - didn't hear about that before. The beers coming out of that brewery will not suck.
     
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  9. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I'm behind in my reading, and this will make me more so. Will buy a copy.
     
  10. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I think he needs to devote a chapter to "biotransformation conspiracy theories" :flushed:

    Seriously, sounds like a good read
     
  11. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    U a Canuck? :slight_smile:
     
  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Barry, he doesn’t use the terminology of “conspiracy theories” but Chapter 6 is entitled Biotransformations.

    http://scottjanish.com/book-announcement/

    Cheers!
     
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  13. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I want a whole chapter of biotransformation conspiracy theories...or this book is dead to me :rolling_eyes:
     
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  14. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Looks like some high gravity reading. I think I'll partake in some session reading until it comes out. (The Jen Talley book was in my mailbox when I returned this week from a trip to Boulder).
     
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  15. OldSock

    OldSock Maven (1,418) Apr 3, 2005 District of Columbia

    How does it look? She was one of the technical editors for my book.
     
  16. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    That didn't read quite right, did it?
     
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  17. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    My first impression is that it doesn't dive deeply enough, I regret to say. Hopefully more time with it will help me find some new insights and info.
     
  18. DVoors

    DVoors Zealot (627) Jan 6, 2014 Indiana

    Awesome! Can't wait to learn more about glycosides and bio transformation of hops.
     
  19. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Glycosides are, indeed, an interesting subject. However, most yeast species that we, as brewers, use, do not have or do not have the very active beta-glucosidase enzymes that are necessary to liberate the aroma and flavor active aglycones from the inactive glycosides. Even brettanomyces sp., which tend to be very enzymatically active, do not have the activity that was once thought.

    In other words, glycosides are a neat subject IN THEORY, but much less so in the real world.
     
  20. DVoors

    DVoors Zealot (627) Jan 6, 2014 Indiana

    Interesting. Is this a new development or discovery? I just recently read about Chad Yacobsen's research (which admittedly could be dated by now) and the tests he did and heard him speak a little about it on the Sour Hour, and he mentioned (i am completely paraphrasing based on my recollection) that in using their mixed culture, they noticed a stark difference in the dry hop character they perceived from simcoe (and a few other varieties - maybe Amarillo and/or citra, as well). Instead of the typical tropical fruit and pine, they got lime (similar to sprite) or something along those lines.
     
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