ISO : Recommendation for my winter beer trip.

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  1. nerdboy19

    nerdboy19 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2015 South Korea
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    Hi guys. I'm always looking for new adventures (with beer of course!). I've been to several places, and looking for new places to travel this winter.

    I've been to
    • Europe (Belgium * 2 / Denmark / Germany / etc...)
    • New York City
    • Boston / Monson
    • Portland, ME
    • San Francisco + Santa Rosa
    • Seattle
    • Portland, OR + Tilamook
    for beer.


    I enjoy all styles of beers, but as a snobby beer geek, I prefer to hunt down for whales. So I really enjoy brewpub / breweries with brewery only bottles (for example : Cantillon, HF). So right now my major options are these.
    • Denver + Casey
    • Miami + Tampa
    • SD + LA
    • + Really want to visit Perennial + SP but can't think of a nice route.
    These are my conditions.
    • Young + haven't driven car a lot.
    • 8~15 traveling days.
    • Jan / Feb, 2018.
    • Fan of sours, IPAs and stouts but great experience is the one I most concern.
    • Budget : $1,000 ~ 1,500 without flight.
    • Asian from non-English speaking country.



    Thanks guys!!!
     
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  2. dripa8

    dripa8 Zealot (647) Sep 19, 2014 Kansas

    Denver! You can find great stuff there as well as take advantage of the snow in the mtns if you desire. Then, why not drive across interstate 70 to St Louis for perennial,sp, and narrow gauge, then they have a fine international airport to leave for home.
     
  3. beertrip

    beertrip Devotee (377) Feb 6, 2015 New Jersey
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    Burlington, Vermont, with a side trip to Hill Farmstead. The only bad thing here is it would be winter, but if you're looking for a great experience, you can't go wrong.
     
  4. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    With your admitted driving inexperience, and since you will be here in the winter, you'll want to choose your routes carefully.
     
  5. moshea

    moshea Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2007 Michigan

    I love Michigan and it is beautiful in the Winter with plenty of great beers and great winter sporting activities, as well as big city life in Detroit, Grand Rapids etc....

    But if I were travelling from Asia, I'd pick Denver out of what you listed.
     
  6. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
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    An easy answer would be Asheville.

    You wouldn't need to drive at all if you didn't want to. Tons of breweries within walking distance of each other. Although, you would probably want to find a way to get out to the Sierra Nevada establishment that is a bit out of town.

    I was there in 2016 for 4 days and had a ton of fun. Great beer, great restaurants and lots of other things to check out while in the area.

    If you didn't mention your driving concern I would say Burlington/Waterbury/Hill Farmstead would be worth a trip. Winter is awesome in the North East, so many fun activities. Things are just a little spread out and public transportation is always possible. (although you may be able to find a nice BA that would help you out).
     
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  7. mkh012

    mkh012 Pooh-Bah (1,787) May 7, 2015 Colorado
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    Colorado is awesome but it'll be cold in the winter. Do you ski or snowboard? If so, it's great for that. Beer wise, you could pretty feasibly hit Crooked Stave, Casey, and Avery on the same trip, but it'll require some driving. Beautiful part of the country but peak coldness January-February. It sounds like you travel a lot, so maybe hold off on this until you can go some time between May and September. Rocky Mountain National Park is worth working into your plans as well.

    San Diego is absolutely beautiful. One of the nicest cities in the country, in my opinion. Even in January, the weather will typically hover between 50 and 60 F. I personally was not blown away by the beers I had there but I was only there for 4 days. I'm East Coast biased, probably, as San Diego is known for its beer. You can take day trips to places like La Jolla as well. Amazing beaches. It'll be nicer May-September, but tolerable year-round.
     
  8. zekeman17

    zekeman17 Pooh-Bah (2,082) Feb 14, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    The obvious answer for that time of year would be warm and sunny Tampa. I'm not sure what the options for including Miami would be without driving, but you should be easily able to Uber or cab to a number of breweries in and around Tampa, plus it'll be warm.
     
  9. McFinniganOfTheFinnigans

    McFinniganOfTheFinnigans Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2017 Maine

    You will get the most enjoyment from Colorado. Plus weed is recreational which only amps up the fun.
     
  10. cryptichead

    cryptichead Grand Pooh-Bah (4,897) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    LA + SD

    Since it'll be winter time, I think this location beats out Denver and MO just by having better weather. You can find central spots and Uber around. Both cities would be great for whale hunting and they get pretty good national distro (unless you're looking for primarily East coast stuff)

    There are also (I'm speculating) more breweries and taproom than in Florida

    Let us know what you decide. Cheers!

    Edit: weed will be recreational in CA starting January 2018
     
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  11. nerdboy19

    nerdboy19 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2015 South Korea
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    Huge thanks guys. I heard a lot about the notorious winter of VT, so I'll keep it till summer :slight_frown: Never thought Denver would be that cold in winter, no wonder South Park is full of snow lol. How is the weather in midwest?

    Weather -wise, FL or LA+SD seems like the best choice right now. Is it really impossible to go through LA by UBER + public transportation? I really enjoyed Seattle, Boston and NYC because they had really nice public transportation. I may be able to find a nice BA that can help me visit few breweries, but I don't want to fully depend on random chances.

    I should look up more, thanks!!!!
     
  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I have gotten sun tans in february in Denver. I have shoveled feet of snow off my driveway as well. It's a crap shoot as to what Colorado weather will do. That being said, nobody is doing what Casey is doing right now.
    Also, we have several fallout shelters in case North Korea sends us one of those special packages.
     
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  13. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    The weather in the Midwest is pretty bad in the winter, but there's quite a few really good beer cities fairly close together. Maybe a summer trip sometime? Chicago has tons of great breweries, so do Minneapolis, and decorah and Des Moines. You better like driving though, Chicago to Des Moines is close to 6 hours.
     
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  14. cryptichead

    cryptichead Grand Pooh-Bah (4,897) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
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    Regarding getting around in LA + SD. They both have walkable clusters of really good breweries/taprooms. For example, Downtown LA or Anaheim (Local Logic and Noble Ale) or Torrance (Monkish and Smog City). Similar for SD (Alesmith and Mikkeller). While getting from cluster to cluster on public transport maybe a pain, if you stay near a cluster (Airbnb) then you can get around pretty easily.

    Public transport in LA is not as bad as people think and the metro and light rails are fairly extensive, but the city and the beer scene is still pretty spread out.

    Overall, I would try to strategically get a hotel or Airbnb near each cluster - this way you'll get to see more of different neighborhoods as well.
     
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  15. Leebo

    Leebo Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Massachusetts

    Cross off Miami for now. Major hurricane will make landfall or nearby in 2 days. 1 more behind. Check option for it next month.
     
  16. hoptheology

    hoptheology Grand Pooh-Bah (5,379) May 12, 2014 South Dakota
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    I vote Wisconsin. I've been several places for "Beercations" and Wisconsin is easy to navigate, home to New Glarus (you can only get it within state lines, and some beers are brewery only), and a short 2 hour drive south will get you into the outer suburbs of Chicago where you'll find a whole mess of great breweries.

    New England area is also a great place to go. Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Vermont.

    Both of those will likely be having some snow around that time though. Just rent a vehicle with 4WD, and stay at the hotel and imbibe your purchases during any snowstorms.
     
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  17. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Just be advised that I70 can get shut down due to storms along long stretches in Kansas. Denver is a solid option just on its own though! Lots of good stuff going on over there.


    St. Louis is a strong option in itself. SP and Perennial are both cranking out excellent stouts and sours. Then you have Narrow Gauge which is producing world class NE IPAs under the radar. No distribution for two of those three breweries, but you can grab bottles at SP, and crowlers at Narrow Gauge. Suppose the awkward part is getting around that city. At least I found it a bit strange to drive between those breweries which have a surprising amount of distance between them.

    There is, or was (this was this past March), a cheap airbnb right around the corner from Side Project. Think I spent $40 a night to stay there, drinking SP every afternoon into the night for a couple days. Schlafly Bottleworks is right there, along with lots of local restaurants.

    SP was serving up a Casey's collaboration on my visit. Absolutely delicious. It was pretty darn limited though, with no to-go options, so I don't know if that is still an option in their taproom. That delicious nectar certainly made me want to visit Casey's sometime soon.
     
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  18. anfield86

    anfield86 Pooh-Bah (2,606) Nov 21, 2006 New Jersey
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    Of course everybody chooses their home state. :laughing: Minnasota in the winter. Seriously? My father went to college on Lake Superior in Northern Wisconsin. He said it didn't snow that much but when it did it didn't stop for a week lol. Let's not even the discuss the average January low temperature of 8 degrees in Minneapolis....anyway, on to the question at hand:

    Since you are making it a winter trip I would absolutely choose San Diego + Los Angeles. Personally though, I'd skip over LA entirely and just spend more time in San Diego. It's a wonderful city.

    Are you taking a car? If so, I'd suggest driving to/from California over to Las Vegas, then down into Arizona. You could hit up the Hoover Dam, Grand Canyon and finish off in Phoenix (or if you REALLY want to make a road trip of it, keep going south to Tucson and perhaps Tombstone if you are really feeling adventureous). If you do end up in Phoenix I suggest driving up to South Mountain. It's a fun drive but it's certainly no Mt. Lemmon (that's down in Tucson....snow storms shut down the summit on occasion. ~9,100 feet of elevation tends to do that).

    If you aren't taking a car, I'd suggest you just hang out in San Diego, stuff your face with Mexican food and enjoy all the excellent bars/breweries. That's what I'd do. Either way, you'll have a blast.
     
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  19. Premo88

    Premo88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,682) Jun 6, 2010 Texas
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    Austin, Texas

    get yourself to Jester King somehow

    spend the rest of the winter (enjoy the warmth *and* the beer)
     
  20. dlcarst

    dlcarst Zealot (733) Aug 21, 2015 Missouri
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    If you get to St. Louis (well worth it for Perennial, Side Project, Narrow Gauge, and others), take the ~1.5 hour trip to southern Illinois for Scratch and White Rooster. Scratch is beautiful, out in the middle of nowhere in the woods and the majority of their beers are completely unlike any other you'll find. They usually have ~5 bottles available, all fantastic and only available at the brewery (or Chicago, if you're lucky). You won't find any brewery in the world quite like Scratch. White Rooster is in the same general area as Scratch. It's in a tiny town, not in the woods like Scratch, but their beers are fantastic (doing a couple NEIPAs these days) and they always have several bottled BA sours available. Two fantastic breweries that are well worth the trip from St. Louis and a great change of pace from the city atmosphere.

    And St. Louis is a day's drive from Colorado, with KC and other breweries in between, so you could easily fly in/out of St. Louis if you're in Colorado.
     
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