Other Half Brewing September 2017

Discussion in 'Mid-Atlantic' started by algebeeric_topology, Sep 1, 2017.

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  1. kthoag

    kthoag Initiate (0) May 21, 2012 New York

    Good point. Was just playing devil's advocate, mostly.

    Myself included! I haven't even had a beer in the new taproom yet. I love the weekday releases, if I was more local I'd only hit OH on weekdays. As it is, I just run to Interboro, Carton or Troon on Saturdays instead.
     
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  2. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    This is not necessarily true. I think plenty of people that miss cans are already going to the taproom other times.


    I would do my entire workday in 2-3 hours if I could.
     
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  3. NiceBeerCans

    NiceBeerCans Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2013 New York

    Honestly, they are smarter to leave the current system in place. They hire extra staff to sell the cans quickly (during release hours only) and don't risk that excess cans remaining too long. The midweek sales are good examples where cans can linger until the weekend. Their most dependable customers are the ones that show up every weekend and buy the majority of cans that keeps their business model successful.

    The taproom experience is much better when there is not extra wait time for can sales. It's enough that they sell growlers and pours of the same beers when the cans sell out. The bartenders do not want to also sell the cans when they are busy enough with the pours and growlers.

    The current system works for them and people who show up on time for the cans sales. The line is great free advertising for them and bulk sales lets the extra staff finish early. Yes, this saves them money on top of the reasons given above savings from less cc fees. Their dependable customers are the ones who line up every weekend. Also, the customers who frequently attend their new taproom with the expanded days and hours.

    You don't have to like it but that is the way it is. In any scenario, you can get to try their beer and bring some home if you want.
     
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  4. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Precisely this.

    Personally speaking I didn't go Saturday after I saw on here that the cans I wanted sold out. So I went on Sunday instead for a pour and a growler. Unless those of us who would like lower limits are boycotting them in huge numbers, there's no downside to their current set up.

    And we're talking about all their missed opportunity, but has anyone seen the taproom on release days? F'ing rammo. Under the current limits not everyone buying is an evil re-seller maxing out with all their mules in tow and then ghosting back home. Plenty of real fans are attending the releases and hanging about after.

    I love internet debating but at this point in time there's really no "problem" to discuss from OH's perspective. It's just a bunch of us who don't like lines saying "I wish I could buy their cans more easily"
     
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  5. Comparison_Ford

    Comparison_Ford Maven (1,293) Apr 4, 2014 New York

    Ding ding ding.
     
  6. kegahead

    kegahead Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2008 New York

    This mentality is so pervasive in this culture and I can't stand it... showing up at 6am for a 10am opening is not being "on time".
     
  7. brandnewcardock

    brandnewcardock Zealot (504) Aug 23, 2017 New York
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    I don't think anyone really claimed that it was a problem from OH's perspective. That's clearly not the case. But if you're going to pretend that resellers buying up all the stock are isn't a problem for the fans, that's simply not true.

    True, but 32oz growlers have quite the mark-up and 64oz ones don't work for everyone.
     
  8. Jtbel1988

    Jtbel1988 Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2014 New York

    Cream Of Broccoli: 7.9% Imperial IPA w / cascade, hallertau blanc, mosaic + simcoe

    The new hotness
     
  9. Vizualize

    Vizualize Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2014 New York

    The argument on cutting limits has always been about Other Half's precious cooler space. It was made out to seem like if they cut limits and didn't sell out of cans within hours the cooler space would fill up and Other Half would have to close their doors because you'd be swimming through cans Scrooge McDuck style.
     
  10. thedon10

    thedon10 Crusader (437) Nov 12, 2009 New York

    I get why they keep things how they are, but it doesn't make it less annoying from a customer perspective (i.e. all of us). There's really no argument that I've heard that case limits per beer with 4 beers available is necessary for anybody on a weekly release basis (unless you're having a wedding or some giant party). I've heard the "I pick up for friends" argument and don't fathom how that's actually reality.
     
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  11. HeyLady

    HeyLady Initiate (0) Sep 17, 2015 New York

    A lot of things in life aren’t necessary. People do it because it gives them a sense of accomplishment; it lets them feel like they are better than the next person. Is it silly, sure is, but some people get off on trying to make other people envious by showing off their weekly beer haul.
     
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  12. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    I wasn't really pretending anything to be honest.

    But to answer that - personally I think the re-seller stuff gets overplayed a little. Truth is none of us really know what % of the beers go that route. Whether it's overplayed, underplayed or accurate; regardless, is halving the limits going to eradicate it like an on/off switch? I'm doubtful.
     
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  13. AM824

    AM824 Devotee (331) Dec 9, 2015 New York

    CC fees and manpower if you cut limits from 1 case to 3 4pks on the two most "hyped" beers for a 4 can release seem like they would be so negligible it would be irrelevant unless I'm missing something. As in like, maybe $200, if that.

    Extra CC swipe is like 10-15 cents and it's an extra couple hours of labor at most, and a lot of people getting shut out buy beers anyway
     
  14. thedon10

    thedon10 Crusader (437) Nov 12, 2009 New York

    So - What's next week?
     
  15. NewmansOwn

    NewmansOwn Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2016 New York

    Keg email says:
    IPA: 7%
    Forever Ever: 4.7%
    Cream Of Broccoli: 7.9%
    Imperial IPA w / cascade, hallertau blanc, mosaic + simcoe
    DDH Sotherhopolistic : 7.9%
    Double dry hopped IPA w / nelson sauvin, motueka + topaz
    Forever Simcoe: 8.5%
    Vic Secret + Mosaic:
    Imperial IPA w / mosaic + vic secret
    DDH Stacks On Stacks:
    Double dry hopped imperial IPA w / citra, el dorado + mosaic
     
  16. MosaicDrops

    MosaicDrops Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2014 New York

    Agreed. Further, i think the lowered limits on the sought after beers would help them offload some of the lesser desirable beers from that respective release. There seems to be a decent sized group of people (myself included) that don't go to OH if they know cans wont last until noonish or later. That said, if I knew I could go at noon and snag Triple Cream, I'd be more inclined to grab a sixer or two of Nelson and Magic Green Nuggets
     
  17. algebeeric_topology

    algebeeric_topology Pooh-Bah (2,052) Dec 30, 2014 Florida
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    I used to think the sellers was overplayed and after chatting to more and more people at releases, I'm now awestruck by the amount being bought for upselling/raffle (as opposed to just picking up for a friend).



    With that said (and not meaning this towards @rozzom despite having his quoted text above), so what? It's inconvenient for me but I have no more right to the beer than anybody else.


    As an OH apologist I guess, I should also say that I admire what Tree House does. They plan out the limits so that the beer usually lasts through the day and a couple extra leftover cans for the next day is just a couple extra cans for the next day. I admire TH but I understand why OH does what they do. I find myself going to OH less and less (and that's fine by me!) There are too many other great alternatives that can be had with less hassle. In particular, most LIC releases are pretty much like early OH releases... half an hour early and front of the line with beer that lasts through the day and beer that's fantastic.

    In some sense though, I imagine OH knows that the hype and lines could suddenly disappear, and then what? Are so many locals pissed that they would boycott OH beers everywhere or would people come back around if it was more like going to Greenpoint? Would it matter? Maybe they've been able to leverage "aggressive" can sales to fuel growth and they're approaching the point they want to level off at. I personally can't wait until the entire block is one big beer amusement park.
     
  18. NiceBeerCans

    NiceBeerCans Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2013 New York

    Little bit of an exaggeration for effect? You didn't have to show up at 6am to get all the cans offered this weekend. :rolling_eyes:
     
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  19. NiceBeerCans

    NiceBeerCans Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2013 New York

    Honestly, I know you'd go, but a lot other the other people who complain about cans limits being too high are not really going to go Other Half on a regular weekly basis to get the cans. They, and many of us, like the idea that we could go later and still get any can we want. In fact, even when the cans do not sell out in a day, some of these people will complain that they didn't get a chance to get their cans.

    Other Half as a business doesn't have to count on these occasional buyers when they have a constant dependable market on Saturday (their line releases) for their cans. That's just a good business model that works for them. Why take the risk? They already make a midweek release for the people who complain about not making the Saturday releases. You can't please everybody and no matter that people can still get the beer on tap or to-go in a growler, there will always be some people who complain.
     
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  20. digdug1810

    digdug1810 Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2011 New Jersey

    a lot of what is being discussed here has been hashed out in previous tired hands threads... a lot of us tired hands regulars have stopped going.. their releases are pretty tame now unless it's a shake release... people just kind of got fed up with the whole thing... high prices///lines of chairs///a bitch to park etc..

    it'll happen to OH too... the fact that they have high limits... case per.. is the reason their beer still moves pretty quick, especially of the less desired beers

    they don't want it sitting around, just like tired hands doesn't want it sitting around. both are kind of at that happy medium... cans sells.. people can still sometimes walk up and get stuff much after the release.. if they don't get the newest beer they still get something.. things aren't won't change unless peoples buying patterns change

    it is what it is till it isn't... make it be the isn't and change will occur.. till then it's just pissing up a pole.
     
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