Tired Hands (October 2017)

This has to be the least talked about release ever. Also one of the least attended releases in recent memory, which even with it coming on the heels of OV day, is quite surprising given there was a triple-light-milkshake in the mix. Even more surprising given that the release for Are You OK? was freaking mobbed, to the point I showed up a little after 6, only to wait for more than an hour to miss out on it by about 10 people. This one I showed up around 5:40, waited for less than 20 minutes, and walked out to see that the line was only down to the compost bins.

Anyone else find it annoying that they don't run more than 2 points of sale at these? Extra square readers cost what, like $20? Don't get me wrong, I think the staff does a great job getting people through there, and I always make sure to tip them for their hard work in doing so (and so should you!). But it seems to me that if they ran 4 registers they would blow through the line in no time.

 

I agree, that was one of the things that impressed me most at Tree House (beside the fact that Julius was only $15/4-pk), they had like 8 or 10 people checking you out, and the line moved fast.

So, um, how much do you tip on a $25 4-pack?

 

I think the Are You Ok? (the double) was packed because you had a ton of traders trying to spin it off like it was a shake, only to have the shake released the next week. This release is also comes on the heels of Sunday, which besides being a long day was also an expensive one when you throw this one on top of it. Did anyone try the triple at the Ferm yesterday???

 

I went to pick up Prayer Group but strolled by the Fermentaria around 5:15 to see if it was worth my time. There didn't seem to be much of a line. I got in the end of the line halfway in the parking lot only to be kindly told that the end of the line strangely was somewhere down the middle of the next block. It still took only about 20 minutes so not terrible. Not as short as the Pineal only release.

For those 20 minutes I got to listen to people in line talk about other lines they had waited in

I enjoyed the Five Leaves I opened last night. Nice to taste Galaxy alone. A little bit of that diesel finish but I think it works well with perceived sweetness from the Agave and alcohol.

 

My thoughts exactly, they are paid employees working a release. Tired Hands gets enough of my money as it is.

 

You tip on your can purchases?

 

Had reservations at 5 in the ferm. Got there early, grabbed a seat, ate, tried a few brews, rolled outside at 515. Got my beers and in the car by 540. Easy peasy.

 

Of course. I have yet to go to a can release where the people working the registers weren't busting it to get everyone in and out as quickly as possible. I don't see any reason not to tip people when they are doing a good job to serve me as a customer. I remember how it feels to run a register with a long line for an extended period of time, and they're sometimes filling orders and running a register at the same time. Calling out their hard work is worth a few dollars of my money, especially since I only go to 5 or so releases a year.

I would hope the tip money is going to the employees, and not Tired Hands. If I found out otherwise, I would never buy a thing from them again.

I usually tip a buck a 4-pack, up to $5. Every time, I've received a thank you for my tip, even when it's $2.

 

I'm all for paying a fair wage for one's work but I assumed that's why the 4 packs were $25 to begin with. I appreciate all of the employees busting their hump there to fill orders etc but I'm not about to start tipping for retail. Honestly I hadn't even thought about it until this point, trying not to sound like an ass.

 

Also I am in no way trying to tell you what to do you with your money, just sharing my opinion.

 

Interesting topic, I usually over-tip servers/bartenders, etc., and the first couple can releases I went to (not at Tired Hands, usually The Veil) I instinctively hit the "20%" button on the ipad when checking out, and then regretted it as I was walking back to my car having paid like $20 more than I needed to for my beer. Since then, I have completely stopped tipping at can releases. Regardless of how hard the employees are working, if I have to wait in a long line to buy something, I don't consider that good customer service and I don't feel obligated to compensate the employee's salaries. I understand the restaurant and bar system, its something we have and something we have to live with, and if tipping went away the price of food would just go up. But when it comes to long lines and $18 4-packs, I'm not having that. If I thought the lines were unavoidable and the prices more reasonable, maybe, but at least at the Veil I feel like they encourage lines and certainly don't do anything to mitigate them.

 

It's not a question of the quality of their service; the costs of their wages are (or absolutely should be) built into their pricing. If it becomes common practice to tip Target cashiers and Tired Hands cashiers* then you better believe their wages are going down while consumers are left to foot the tab of both the product at the same price and the difference in wages.

That being said, do what you want with your money. Just know that en masse it's the type of behavior that would be a driving force behind tipping cashiers to be expected (or necessary).

*Not knocking Tired Hands in particular at all; by all indications it seem like they treat their employees fairly.

 

They're also getting my beer for me. I don't tip at the General Store because I'm picking out my own stuff. Ditto with Target. I don't think the people filling orders at the can release are the ones who decide how many (or few) checkouts there are going to be, so it's not on them that they don't have enough checkouts and the line is long. It's a decision someone else made that makes their jobs more difficult and stressful.

If it's worth tipping a gal or guy a buck because they spent 15 seconds putting a beer into a glass for me, then surely it's worth tipping the one or two people a few bucks for working a can release, and working hard. I dunno, it's a nice thing to do and I always appreciated it the occasions I got tipped as a service employee.

 

... only if they move the food from 5 feet behind them to you at the register lol.

 

time is a flat circle

 

...with this same tipping topic circling back from the Other Half thread.

 

I blame the square readers and the psychological guilt of seeing those choices. When would I ever tip anyone else for this type of transaction? Am I saying that those employees should receive less? No, those are full time employees (I assume) with benefits (I assume) who if they do a good job are compensated like everyone else with their wages and other bonuses (I assume). This is not a tipping situation but I mean feel free to do so.

 

I will add that if Square let the folks configure the buttons before signing to be 1 buck, 2 bucks, 3 bucks or something, I'd be much more likely to throw a tip on there. The gall of asking for a $20 tip due to the software always gives me such sticker shock that I don't tip at all. I'd tip them a buck if I didn't have to go out of my way to do so. That said, one or two 'accidental' $20 tips every Saturday probably makes it worthwhile on their end.

 

It's like the tip jar at the coffee shop. I always threw a few bucks in now and then when I was going to a coffee shop on the reg. It's a better way of saying "thank you" than simply saying thank you.

I like to think all Tired Hands employees make a living wage and are getting full benefits, but I doubt that's the case.