Bourbon County 2017

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by whatruDOINdragic, Jun 11, 2017.

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  1. Muss42

    Muss42 Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2015 Michigan

    Was my number one beer I was looking forward to. Well I don't have to try to track one down and drop $50
     
  2. migue81

    migue81 Initiate (0) Dec 26, 2016 Illinois

    Pouring salt in the wound...
     
  3. ratwheels

    ratwheels Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2011 Illinois

    Maybe the beer did turn that bad in a couple of months.

    But honestly, if there's a chance any of their beers turn to the point of being unfit to sell, they should be giving all of them more time.

    They absolutely hope some beer gets better with age. If they didn't believe that, why are there still kegs of past releases constantly popping up at GI itself? Wouldn't they want to have it all consumed ASAP if they don't expect it to get better, or at least be worthy of being sold? They're selling Prop '14 and Vanilla Rye for a HUGE premium at the tap room. If they expected their beers to get worse with age, they'd be selling them for a discount.
     
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  4. Lazhal

    Lazhal Pooh-Bah (1,890) Mar 13, 2011 Michigan
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    Unfortunately most of us will probably never get to taste it if it is keg only. :cry:
     
  5. Vitacca

    Vitacca Pooh-Bah (2,250) Sep 15, 2010 Montana
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    It is possible, but the sales rep would probably never send it. A local gas station near Milwaukee got an allocation last year based on 312 sales but the rep never sent it. It went to a better known account instead.
     
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  6. GarMerr

    GarMerr Aspirant (233) Feb 5, 2015 Illinois

    If anyone says that the beers you referenced are as good or better as they were fresh, they are lying. In the case of these beers, it's not that they are better. It's that they are more rare. This is the only justification for the tap room costs.
     
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  7. Bbear

    Bbear Zealot (721) Oct 26, 2016 Illinois
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    And how secondary market value is. Wasn't Goose Clybourn selling bottles for $100 plus before they closed last year? They know what they're doing.
     
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  8. BeerTaco

    BeerTaco Initiate (0) Jul 22, 2017 Illinois

    What about a BCS Funnel Cake variant?
     
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  9. ratwheels

    ratwheels Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2011 Illinois

    I didn't say better. But GI clearly doesn't think they're unsellable. And those beers are 3 years older than the beer they just pulled out. For a beer to go from "Fantastic" and "Incredible" to unable to be sold in 4 months deserves to be questioned.

    And some of those beers were definitely better after a few months. Maybe you didn't think so, but plenty of people did.
     
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  10. GarMerr

    GarMerr Aspirant (233) Feb 5, 2015 Illinois

    A few months of mellowing is a far different flavor profile than 3+ years. I can totally appreciate that.

    Honestly, my take is that GI was starting the hype train as early as possible. And chances are the people responsible for crafting media messages have little to nothing to do with people who are actually producing/tasting the beer.
     
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  11. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    Unless I am missing something, this technically was an experiment for them.

    As the age of the barrels increases, it becomes more difficult to know what will come out (and how much). As I understand it, the BW Reserve did not just go into 35 year old barrels, but it went into the same 35 year barrels that Rare came out of.

    I fully believe they could have tried a small amount, and it was great, but after mixing, or after mixing and a little time, that something just did not come out right.

    They had every reason to hype it when they expected it would be good, and sampling indicated so. After all, it's an homage to BCBBW of years pre-2015.

    What I am surprised about is the flak rather than curiosity. If they had released it and people detected any sort of off or bad flavors (completely UNrelated toninfection), people would have pitched a fit. But they did the right thing and people are upset...still.
     
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  12. GuyFawkes

    GuyFawkes Grand Pooh-Bah (5,630) Apr 7, 2011 Illinois
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    2014 "regular" BCS tastes better now than it did fresh. IMO.
     
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  13. flat_lander

    flat_lander Pooh-Bah (2,490) May 11, 2016 Illinois
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    Drank a lot of BCBS and variants with a group of friends the other weekend. It was a good night. This included 13-16 regular side by side. Several folks, myself included, preferred in order 13, 15, 14, then 16. All were great. The last few times we've popped a 15 (non-infected bottles) it's been fantastic.
     
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  14. Jdub2839

    Jdub2839 Pundit (804) Mar 15, 2014 Florida
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    Does pasteurizing the beer affect the flavor at all? I had one bottle last year and it didn't taste quite as good as previous years from what I could remember.
     
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  15. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    Per Jared in this article from last fall, no.
     
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  16. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    They have people sampling these barrels if I recall correctly, on a weekly if not daily basis. There is no way this should have turned before they would have been aware it was time to get it out of barrels... My two cents is either they have it and they just don't have sufficient quantities for distro release so it will be a special keg beer or they think it will cut into other BCBS sales so they will hold it until next year for release(maybe when they finally finish clearing out Rare stock....
     
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  17. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    I thought about that they might not have the quantity. I wondered that.

    It will be jaw-dropping for me if they release it next year. That'd be so...sheisty.
     
  18. prior2two

    prior2two Maven (1,490) Oct 18, 2013 Illinois
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    Or they can just say, it needed more time.
     
  19. Chuckdiesel24

    Chuckdiesel24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,208) Jul 6, 2016 Illinois
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    I think you're oversimplifying here. You're saying that because they hold back beer, they must think it gets better with age? That completely disregards the fact they sold the majority at the initial release. It's not black and white - they don't necessarily look at it as simple as "better or worse with age".

    Many places with a barrel program hold back beers because a lot of us think it's fun to drink something like that 3 years after you had it fresh. GI is just trying to capitalize on things like that.
     
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  20. GarMerr

    GarMerr Aspirant (233) Feb 5, 2015 Illinois

    There is a big difference between aged BCBS and aged adjunct BCBS. I wholeheartedly support the mellowing and smoothness that are present in aged '12 - '14 reg. '13 is drinking fantastic right now. But the muted adjuncts from aged variants create a beer that is a shell of its former self.

    In any event, I'm looking forward to Josh Noel's review today of Prop '17: Banana Bukake.
     
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