Barrel Aged Beer in Cans?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by honkey, Nov 1, 2017.

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Would you rather buy barrel aged beers in cans or bottles?

  1. Cans

    43 vote(s)
    16.7%
  2. Bottles

    85 vote(s)
    33.1%
  3. No Preference

    79 vote(s)
    30.7%
  4. Whichever one is best for the quality of the beer is what I want

    61 vote(s)
    23.7%
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  1. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    Who is ready for another bottle vs. can discussion?!? I actually wanted to make this one a poll and have it limited to just barrel aged beers. I feel like most people may not be ready to see bourbon barrel stouts in cans. However, the common semi-automated canning lines available (or affordable rather) for small-medium sized breweries are typically of higher quality than the bottling lines available at the same price point. At my brewery, I really want to switch all of our barrel aged beers to being canned instead of bottled. Assuming that the price per ounce is the same, how would you BA's feel about seeing your favorite barrel aged beers in cans?
     
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  2. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    I voted "Bottles." It seems to me that if I was going to drink them fresh, it wouldn't make much difference. But if I was buying them to cellar, I'd prefer bottles.
     
  3. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    Interesting. I think this is a similar reaction to what many people will have. What is your reason for not wanting to cellar cans?
     
  4. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    As long as the beer is not affected one way or another I don't care.
     
  5. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Ditto here. I've already had BBA beers in a can, from Port Jeff, and it made no difference as far as I could tell. They seem to be doing well with it too, from what my brother says, so customers can adjust if the product is good.
     
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  6. Lingenbrau

    Lingenbrau Grand Pooh-Bah (4,853) Apr 9, 2011 Oregon
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    I like the idea of cans for everything. Portability, recycle-ability, light prevention, etc. Having said that, I've only had a few canned barrel aged beers that I can think of that I have aged (i.e. Ten Fidy) and thought the process went just as well as a bottle. Sure, a bottle can be more presentable, but ultimately it's what is on the inside that counts, and if a canned beer will age the same (if not better) than I am all for it.

    Another issue to address is cost and format. As you (op) have stated, keeping it the same cost per ounce would be important. I assume using 12 or 16 ounce cans would be used, which would also increase availability, especially if replacing 22 oz bombers, which in my opinion is another (if not the greatest) benefit. And at the same price per ounce, I would gladly buy 2 cans for nearly the same price as one bomber.

    Good luck with whatever you decide to go with. Cheers!
     
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  7. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    I don't know if it matters but as my own pref, I would take cans. Zero light, won't break, etc. I guess from that view point I like the can but again, taste is all that matters and if they are same then who cares in the end, it just comes down to the end users likes.
     
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  8. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    I favored bottles. For High ABV beers I sometimes don't want the full 12 oz. in one night. I know how to reseal a bottle but not how to reseal a can.
     
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  9. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I've had a couple in cans myself and am perfectly fine with it. Personally, I couldn't care less about how the beer is packaged, as long as what's in the package is of good quality.
     
  10. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    You just made a very good point, I did not consider that... Excellent point.
     
  11. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    I do think that this is a good point as well. That said, I've never had a problem finishing any bottle that I open, so it's much less of a concern for me, personally.
     
  12. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    I am same way, sort of why I never pondered it. But it is a very good point, especially since a lot of people probably open and save some for next day, etc. So with that said I can see big points to Bottle now.
     
  13. dcotom

    dcotom Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,637) Aug 4, 2014 Iowa
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    It's not that I don't want to. It's just that I haven't had much experience with cellaring anything but bottles. I do have some Ten Fidy in the cellar right now, and I have no complaints. Maybe as more of the big stouts that I want become available in cans, I'll stash a few more of them away.
     
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  14. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    I prefer bottles for BA beers. Cans are great for most styles because they are more portable and keep the beer fresher, but I like to age most BA beers and I don't really take them anywhere.
     
  15. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    I have an issue with cans. Aluminum + BPA lining. Not only you get a metallic taste, you also end up ingesting BPA. And for those reasons, I don't think cans are very suitable for aging. Like a lot of people on here, I like to get several bottles of barrel-aged beers. Enjoy one or two now and save the rest, to see how it evolves over time. What's the name of your brewery?
     
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  16. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    If you believe that cans do this, then wouldn't you want to age your beer in cans?
     
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  17. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I chose no preference as barrel aged beers for me always get poured into a glass. If it's a beer that I may drink not in glass, then I prefer cans. I get a metallic taste out of bottles from the cap area.
     
  18. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Anecdotal note @honkey - Revolution Brewing in Chicago just switched all their barrel aged beers from bombers to 12 oz. cans this year. Im curious how the response will be.

    As for my own preference - I am so used to BA beers in bottles that cans seem odd, but, the more I think about it, the less I have an opinion. I care more about the beer inside than the format in terms of can v bottle BUT I do prefer any 12/16 oz format to a bomber or larger format.
     
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  19. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    Not necessarily, the fun of cellaring is seeing how these beers change with time. I don't really want the aging slowed down on certain styles.
     
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  20. honkey

    honkey Maven (1,350) Aug 28, 2010 Arizona
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    Tombstone Brewing Company.
     
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