Good Stouts for beginners?

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  1. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    Good grief! You consider those as "beginner" stouts? :thinking_face: Especially Goose Island BCBS, Deschutes The Abyss and Founders Imperial Stout. So many people commenting here, either don't know the difference or don't understand what the OP is asking for. This is not: "What's Your Favorite Imperial Stout?" thread.
     
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  2. thuey

    thuey Pooh-Bah (1,705) Nov 13, 2015 California
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    To be fair, OP did ask for awesome wintery stouts
     
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  3. jeebeel

    jeebeel Zealot (667) Jun 17, 2003 Texas

    OP - this is your answer, and availability will depend on your market. Then if you want to move on to imperial stouts, barrel-aged stuff, etc., there are plenty of recommendations for those in the rest of this thread.
     
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  4. pjbear05

    pjbear05 Pundit (806) May 28, 2008 Florida

    Especially the Special Double Cream Stout.
     
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  5. pjbear05

    pjbear05 Pundit (806) May 28, 2008 Florida

    For a while a local sports bar had the Mac on tap, I might go see if they still do.
     
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  6. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
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    Easy, tiger. The OP indicates that he's relatively new to stouts yet hasn't met one he hates so far (which ones do you suppose he's tried other than Guinness?), plus he was looking for some appropriate examples for a "winter stout", something I would consider meaning higher gravity/higher ABV. He also appears to be an experienced IPA drinker, so he probably understands the difference between barrel aged and imperial/double styled beers vs. lower gravity/lower ABV beers.

    I can't help you if your dainty sensibilities are troubled by some of my suggestions, but I stand by my original recommendations to the OP based on the sub-styles I listed (and which you so artfully omitted when citing my reply). You have to "begin" somewhere if you want to try those categories. I for one believe the OP can handle those beers if he so chooses.
     
  7. flaskman

    flaskman Pundit (985) Aug 3, 2015 New York

    You cannot go wrong with Founders Breakfast Stout, Sierra Nevada Narwhal, or if local Victory Storm King. Great stouts - period.
     
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  8. alexanderplatz

    alexanderplatz Pundit (995) Jul 5, 2015 Kentucky

    There is a lot of fun just jumping in with both feet and trying lots of them. i.e. Don't worry about learning which one is widely regarded as "best." Even the stouts you don't really click with will still be interesting and educational experiences. Probably more sensible to buy singles than six packs or four packs of new-to-you beers, but generally just go for it.
     
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  9. BlunderfulGuy

    BlunderfulGuy Zealot (567) Nov 23, 2016 Nebraska

    Deschutes, Samuel Smith, Odell, and Sierra Nevada are what get a lot of people around here into darker beers. I see Left Hand in "build your own six pack" deals all the time which gets people past the "ew, there's milk in this thing?" phase and into the "this stuff is delicious" phase, Tallgrass also has their Vanilla Bean Buffalo Sweat around this time which is great but ends up stuck at the very top of the coolers here and people forget it exists.

    Something a little bigger (but I think is still good for beginners, especially around the cold holidays) is North Coast Old Rasputin with cheesecake, chocolate cake, brownies, chocolate peanut butter silk pie, etc. etc. after dinner. There are a handful of other "good for adventurous beginners" Imperial Stouts and big Porters that I could put here too, but I'll leave it at that.
     
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  10. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    Yeah, you have to begin with lower ABV Stouts that are more approachable and less aggressive. Once you're used to those, you can begin to explorer bolder and fuller flavors. Pretty simple and easy to understand.
     
  11. colts9016

    colts9016 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,391) Jul 2, 2007 Idaho
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    The Samuel Smith Oatmeal stout is very good starter not to heavy and the Left Hand Milk is also very good too for starters
     
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  12. deleted_user_950283

    deleted_user_950283 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2015
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    In Jersey I'd go with anything from Carton or Kane.
     
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  13. Dtrain22

    Dtrain22 Devotee (347) Nov 2, 2017 North Carolina

    I was in your shoes not too long ago (and kinda still feel that I am a newbie to that world of beer). Being from NC, I have never experienced any issues with Duck Rabbit and would certainly recommend their milk stout as it was a go-to for me getting into stouts. I also second all of the left hand milk stout recommendations as well. Very delicious and easy!

    Since you mentioned you wanted to maybe hunt some down....not sure of distribution, but.... Oskar Blues Hotbox Porter and Terrapin Moo Hoo chocolate milk stout.

    Good luck! And dive in!
     
  14. jkane101

    jkane101 Savant (1,161) Sep 22, 2007 New Jersey

    Why? That's utter nonsense, there's no good reason one would 'have to begin with lower ABV Stouts'. Just drink different beers and see what you like. It's really THAT simple
     
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  15. jaybomb81

    jaybomb81 Aspirant (219) Sep 5, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I second the Victory Storm King recommendation. I used to be a dedicated 100% IPA guy with the more bitter the better. I had sampled some stouts, but found the sweetness unappealing. Storm King was the first stout I tried that was more on the bitter side of the flavor spectrum and allowed me to transition to an appreciation for the darker style of beers.
     
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  16. Oktoberfiesta

    Oktoberfiesta Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2013 New Mexico

    I started with oatmeal stouts and milk stouts for my first few months as I got Into the deeper richer flavored stouts.

    I don't think I could have gone right to FBS without having some initial impressions on the genre at large.

    Op mentions liking guinness. So there is some history and context. I would just slowly rank it up from there. Also look for foreign extra stouts. Guinness has a foreign extra Stout that I used to see around town with yellow labels. It was basically an amped up regular Guinness. But many other breweries do the dry Stout well too.

    Involving coffee right away is tricky. As an adjunct, you may be only tasting that and not all of the great roasty toasty specialty malt.

    I second the left hand milk stout recommendation (unless you like the nitro mouthfeel, I'd stick with regular.) I also recommend Anderson valley Barney flats oatmeal stouts, and Deschutes obsidian as more straight forward stouts
     
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  17. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    This 100%! Thank you!
     
  18. VWSunroof

    VWSunroof Aspirant (289) Aug 2, 2003 Texas

    Although I haven't had one in a while, Anchor Porter was one of my favorites. Pretty widely available as well.
     
  19. colby600

    colby600 Pooh-Bah (1,919) Mar 24, 2015 Connecticut
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  20. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    South Jersey Struggles :slight_frown:
     
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