Black IPAs are dead? Why?

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  1. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    The Brew Kettle, a nearby hop-driven brewery near me, recently stopped producing their Black Rajah IPA, probably the best beer of the style ever made. Allegedly it’s still a seasonal, but I’ve been waiting a while.

    The beer was perfect. And many other national distro breweries have made very fine black IPAs that have become harder and harder to come by.

    It indeed was quite a fad probably 5-6 years ago (wondering if NEIPAs have the same fate). But there’s a good few that crave a CDA from time to time.

    Why did the Black IPA die?
     
  2. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Grand Pooh-Bah (3,779) Jul 27, 2013 Texas
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    Not sure it was every really alive....
     
  3. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Its a seasonal around here, but there are plenty of good examples of the style still being made in Chicago. Its definitely not that popular, but I don't think its dead.
     
  4. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    Momentarily. I just remember everyone and their mother brewing a Black IPA for at least a hot second.
     
  5. readyski

    readyski Pooh-Bah (1,557) Jun 4, 2005 California
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    Definitely not dead, I do partake every now and then. But it never was as popular or hyped as NEIPAs.
     
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  6. sharpski

    sharpski Grand Pooh-Bah (3,100) Oct 11, 2010 Oregon
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    It's not hard to find a Black IPA in the PNW year round. We wanted to call 'em Cascadian Dark Ales.
     
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  7. jasonmason

    jasonmason Zealot (742) Oct 6, 2004 California
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    I think most casual craft drinkers just couldn't get over the look of it. To many, many people, dark beers are supposed to taste like that "super-heavy Guinness stuff".

    It's a shame, because there were some really interesting beers that came out of the Black IPA trend. Stone's 15th Anniversary black DIPA was fascinating because it was so confusing to my palate; I remember that it literally tasted like I was drinking 2 different beers at the same time.
     
  8. schramlo

    schramlo Initiate (0) Jun 19, 2014 Michigan

    Lagunitas Nighttime is the current seasonal bomber... :grin:
     
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  9. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I think folks lost interest after the name Cascadian Dark Ale didn't really catch on.

    Or, another possibility is that it is presently being made in the quantity that customers desire to purchase.
     
  10. Premo88

    Premo88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,670) Jun 6, 2010 Texas
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    West Coast-style Russian/American Imperial Stout

    There's lots of those hanging around, and the difference is nil, especially if you drink them fresh.
     
  11. MFMB

    MFMB Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2015 Idaho

    When FW discontinued Wookey Jack is when they died to me. Mainly because it was the only one I drank on the reg.
     
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  12. Realsambo

    Realsambo Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2016 Texas

    They are dead cause they are nasty
     
  13. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    This one seemed apparent to me.

    5-6 years ago breweries were "hopping" up almost every style and creating new ones that were hopped up. Sure it appealed to some but was just not a big seller. The "Belgian/White IPA" has held a little traction but certainly not around as much as a few years past.

    Few places will continue to make beers that aren't big sellers.
     
  14. beertrip

    beertrip Devotee (377) Feb 6, 2015 New Jersey
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    I remember reading that Wookey Jack could reappear as a special release. Still waiting on that. The next best one to me is Odell's Mountain Standard, just not easy for me to get. Locally, Carton does a nice job with this style.
     
  15. Norica

    Norica Zealot (660) Feb 2, 2006 Massachusetts
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  16. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    There are a few people doing them. Just not regularly because they never caught on.
    Besides, unfiltered black beer looks green and sickly if you hold it up to a light.
     
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  17. seth27

    seth27 Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2015 Pennsylvania

    I never really understood the point of them. In most of them I've tried (which admittedly isn't a ton) the black malts don't really make much of a flavor contribution. If the goal was to just make an IPA that's a different color just put food dye in it for all I care.
     
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  18. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

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    These are available almost all year from Mother Road in AZ, very tasty stuff.
     
  19. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I buy them and like them but if they disappeared tomorrow I really wouldn't notice.
     
  20. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Pooh-Bah (2,181) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Love the style — when Stone’s SSR was shelved — it bummed me out. Like NEIPAs - I enjoyed the stories about how the style developed and who could claim inventor credit. A trip that Portland in 2013 expanded my appreciation for the brew. Having said all that - I think the demand/sales and profits being made from NEIPA’s is orders of magnitude higher than the CDA style at its peak. RIP Sublimely Self Riteous. :cry:
     
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