New to Ohio (2017)

If you don’t like over paying for overrated beer, don’t purchase the beer. Quite simple, really.

 

If you don't like discussing things, don't read message boards?

 

What’s there to discuss? It’s simple economics and craft beer is a for profit industry. Go cry to the owner and see how far that gets you.

 

And I am guessing they kicked that keg, so what is their incentive to lower the price?

 

Considering CBS has been one of the most hyped up releases I can remember and the suggested MSRP for a 750ml bottle is $25.99 I don't think BK was gouging at $8 for 5oz. The Jungle Jim's in Fairfield killed two kegs of CBS in 17 minutes last Friday.

 

I dig what you’re saying but then explain why almost every other place that had that beer put it on for 3-5$ less a glass. They also have keg hooking, glass washing, etc.

 

@djtothemoney and the previous posts are making normative statements - that it feels unfair because the costs are inflating higher than it seems is warranted.

If you consider what the definition of a demand curve is (the quantity demanded at each price) - it's simple to see that with almost certainty someone will purchase these beers at any price. The statements were really talking about the steady perceived upward movement of all prices, and as I read it, the seemingly upward movement of equilibrium prices (and the associated perceived fairness). There's an "acceptable" level of profit for most businesses in consumer's view.

As @jampics2 has pointed out, it's certainly not necessary to charge as high of a price as some places are choosing.

 

This is sort of off-topic, but am I incorrect that the last CBS release, the 750s were somewhere around $18? I certainly don't remember paying $26. These were my more nascent craft beer days so I can't imagine me waiting to buy at $26 beer at that point in my life.

 

They “feel it’s unfair”? Then once again, pass on the beer at that price.

If TBK was charging $50 a pour, that keg would still have life today. But as it is, it most likely sold out in an hour. I have a hard time equating that with an insane price point.

I must come from a different school of thought, because most businesses are going to charge as much as they can based on demand, especially for a luxury product... beer. it doesn’t matter if “most” consumers think the price is unfair as long as enough people are willing to pay and relieve the company of their stock. And I suspect many that feel it’s unjust are still paying, therefore undermining their own grievance.

 

$8.99 or below six packs are getting rare indeed. Beer nerds are demanding more and more crazy/expensive ingredients and more barrels and Pappy Van Apple Brandy shit. So it's not entirely the brewers' fault.

 

You have to take into account the high level of entitlement these folks have. It's not their job to decide whether or not the beer is worth buying. The bar is supposed to provide them with a product they desire at a price point they agree with. It doesn't matter what the rest of the free market dictates.

The reality is that a bar like this has the duty to price each beer at pretty much the highest point it thinks it can easily get away with. $14 CBS or whatever isn't gonna jive with everyone and they are ok with it. That's why they make most of their money on $6 IPA.

I'm surprised people don't investigate the profit turnover on the cheaper beers they sell gallons of. I bet $5-$6 IPA is way more profitable than having a keg of some rare stout.

 

I don’t want to come across sanctimonious; I complain about pricing sometimes, too. But usually when I do it, the beer in question sits around and collects dust because it is obviously overpriced. I wouldn’t bitch about a beer I just willingly paid my money to drink.

But yea, entitlement seems to be prevalent today.

 

My comments were directed at your delivery, not at the fact that people can "take it or leave it." No one was crying, no one was even really bitching. -And, certainly no one was acting entitled. Someone brought up a discussion point - there wasn't entitlement in that. No one suggested that we deserve prices that barely allow a business to stay open. You responded as a jerk - your response was intended to do nothing but shut down the previous posters from continuing to discuss it.

Dick move.

 

I am usually a jerk, but I’m tired today and have moved into full blown asshole territory. That said, some of the posts around here make being a jerk easy.

 

Oh I agree with you whole heartedly on that. My beef is more so with the fact that new breweries are opening and their session IPAs, pale ales, etc are starting at $6 for a pour.

That being said though, I understand the economics of it. You set it at a price that the market will bear. Casual Pint in Oakley had BCBS for $14.00/ 10 oz. I didn't go to the release, they still had it over a week later. Either way though, you pay it, or you don't.

 

Honestly I am calling out brew kettle because I feel they are taking advantage of people with their pricing. I feel kind of pissed off when I buy a Thai speedway stout for 14 bucks then go somewhere else and seee it for ten. That bothers me a lot. I was going to go get cbs there as well until I found out how much they are charging Just like how a grocery store is pretty much charging double for bcbs. Honestly. Don't see how anyone can defend this. This is not about if cbs cost this much if u don't like it don't buy it. It's about a beer cost a certain price and a place wants to add on to that price above and beyond what anyone else in Cleveland is selling it for. And no I won't be buying it from them. What's so weird is brew kettle house beers could not be any more fair in price and reasonable. If not some of the best pricing in the area. Either way. As said we all of a choice but also places need to be put in check with some of this crap.

 

I guess my thought is... People vote with their wallets. If people think they are too expensive, then they need to avoid going there and spending money. Yet the moment you tap something "special" people who say they won't spend "X" amount end up paying "X" amount just to try it, so they will continue to do it.

At Lizardville last week... Bottles sold out quickly of CBS so by the time I got there, it was out. The only way I could get to taste it was by buying a flight of Founder's stuff. I couldn't just buy a 5oz pour (or full pour) of CBS. So I didn't try it and left. I just wanted to try CBS and not the other three or four beers as well. Not exactly the same, but I think that practice is silly as well.

 

Sellouts suck, but High West Victory at Sea at $14 for the 4-pack does not.

 

Heinen's in Chagrin Falls still has both AleSmith Thai and Mokasida Speedway Stout on-tap.. both are $5/10oz snifter.. $15/32oz growler and $25/64oz growler.. they also have Thirsty Dog Barrel-Aged Siberian Night w/coffee for a little bit less.. all 3 have been on since Black Friday and still are according to their website.. seem like pretty good deals IMO..

 

Yeah it's nice drinking Nut smasher for 8 bucks and change. Either way. This is a never ending thing honestly is that will keep happening all over.