February homebrewing competition beer

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  1. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    I kind of wanted to poll you guys on what you felt would be the best February beer for a competition I plan to enter. It's Maine and "ice" is in the event name, so think cold. I have a feeling that a lot of people will do a brown/porter/stout kind of thing as that is what people seem to be brewing the most in the club. As on to never really abide by "seasonal" brewing I settled on a couple style I would like to brew. I am not sure if a stronger beer is really better, but that is where my mind goes. I was thinking:
    -Belgian Double
    -American Strong Ale
    -Black IPA
    -Red Ale

    have never brewed these types before so that would be new (I have brewed Dark Strong Belgians before but not a double) and need to work on trying to build a recipe. I like them all and am leaning towards the American Strong Ale or the Black IPA, but like a good Red Ale too. At the same time the Double would stand out from what people usually brew in the area too. I have been trying but struggle with hops on the Black IPA and American as I am not sure what works well in either. And I never know how to balance out the red...

    So in the end I would like to hear which style people would prefer to see in the February time frame and then maybe some suggestion on how you like yours. I have a lot of ideas, just think I need to step back and get some other perspective.
     
  2. Beerswimmer

    Beerswimmer Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2013 Texas

    I love Belgians! I like dubbels that are medium to light bodied and dry that have a fruity yeast strain. But that's just me.
     
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  3. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    I think a red ale would be nice and would probably stand out among a crowd of stouts/porters. Second choice for me would be a dubbel.
     
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  4. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    What about a white IPA?
     
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  5. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I had an imperial red ale last week (Short's Double Magician), so a red ale is what I thought of right away when I saw this thread. The Short's version is a tad toward the sweet malty side and it hit the spot on a cold day. OP, consider that option with the sweet, higher abv - you get the heat and the sweet.
     
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  6. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    What exactly is a white IPA? Not sure it is what I would want.

    An imperial red sounds good too.... So like a red just stronger or is there an extra twist?
     
  7. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    http://allaboutbeer.com/beer_style/white-ipa/

    New Belgium accumulation is a winter white IPA that I enjoyed.
     
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  8. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    Eisbock of some kind would take "ice" literally...I've made honey liquor from mead with the technique but never an actual Eisbock.
     
  9. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I have not brewed an imperial red, but I don't think there would be any extra twist to it other than to use some crystal malt to the strength that would give you that extra little bit of sweetness. Here is a link to a 10-gallon recipe from the Recipes sub-forum above. However, I'm not good enough at the brewing science to look at this recipe and tell you how much sweetness you'd get from it. Maybe someone else can comment on that.
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/leaf-peepers-imperial-red.215285/
     
  10. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Black IPA has definitely been on the decline, but I think that dank, piney, kinda fruity hop profile goes well with the slightest hint of roast, if you have a not-too-flavorful malt bill and unobtrusive yeast. Basically, use a WCDIPA malt bill on the low end (~8%) without simple sugars, using enough de-bittered dark malt to get your color., and go cold with yeast. Chinook to bitter, Simcoe mid-boil, then 2:2:1 Chinook:Simcoe:Columbus at 10/flameout/whirlpool/dryhop how you see fit for the beer.
    I call mine Electrified Hate
     
  11. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    American strong with some Maine ingredients. Used to be a guy who made birch syrup in Maine. Perhaps adding some of that to a rosary double,,,,,,, or call it a Maine strong double birch.

    Second choice is Belgian double, always like those.
     
  12. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    that is roasty double, lol
     
  13. Jesse14

    Jesse14 Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    I have been seeing more versions of coffee IPAs popping up too. I think these may be the new trend away from black IPAs. You still get that roast and citrus combo but with a little more depth from the coffee. The sweetness and smoothness of coldpress works well. Might be tough if a first go at the style but I bet you would stand out.
     
  14. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    All great ideas so far. I like dank hops on an Imperial Red IPA. Some Caramunich 80 or British Dark Crystal 75/85, about 5%, carapils at 5%, enough debittered black malt to get to 16 SRM. 8% ABV, shoot for 60-70 IBUs, Centennial, Chinook, CTZ, Simcoe. Ferment with 1968.

    Black IPA @MrOH hit on the nose. Maybe some Amarillo in there too. Always loved Stone's Sublimely Self Righteous which was Simcoe and Amarillo.
     
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  15. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Not making this easy one me... I have to say I like everything people have. Seeing a lot of ideas that make me even more undecided. Eisbock seems a stretch for me, never done anything that technical before, but if I could make a good one it would probably style points for a play on the event.

    I will say, from a personal preference, the White IPA is out along with the Coffee IPA. Also, I am not one to use proprietary hops if I can help it (personal preference as well).

    I feel like the red or imperial red is winning me over more now... Regardless of how much I like Black IPAs... Will have to try to make a couple more recipes and make a call from there...
     
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  16. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Eisbock. Or at least a doppelbock.
     
  17. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    Interesting, sounds like brewers in Maine think a lot like my beer club members . . . wait six weeks before a comp to start brewing (potentially complex) beers. This isn't a diss, but does anyone think you can do justice to a Strong Belgian or Imperial anything and have it ready by Feb? If you brewed an Eisbock today it would be reaching its peak around Feb of 2019.

    I suggest you build a recipe around something that doesn't require aging . . . IPAs would certainly work, along with standard strength most-anything. Not really ice-related but wits and paters are best drunk fresh, they would certainly be ready in six weeks. FWIW, I'm brewing an IPA tomorrow for a comp in March, it'll have eight weeks before being judged. Then again I have no experience with snow or ice so maybe I'm off the mark . . .
     
  18. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Yea this was kind of a quickly sprung thing.. Not truely complaining, but not the happiest either...

    I am still mostly being pulled between the Red and the BIPA... This is what I got

    Ivan:
    28% Golden Light LME
    21% US 2 row
    21% Maris Otter
    13% Munich 1
    9% Golden Light DME
    4% Special B
    2% Victory
    1% Roasted Barely
    1oz Chinook @ 60min
    1oz Centennial @10
    1oz Chinook @ flame out

    -OR-

    Cold Maine Night:
    28% Golden light LME
    34% US 2 row
    9% Munich 1
    6% Rye malt
    5% Carafa Special III
    17% Golden Light DME
    .5oz Magnum @ 60min
    1oz each Chinook Centennial @ 10
    1oz each Chinook Centennial cascade @5 (maybe flame out?)
    Dry hop with 1oz of each Chinook Centennial and Cascade in primary


    Thoughts? I don't use either chinook or centennial much so figured i would give them another whirl.
     
  19. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    If late Feb and you start this week, you could try a big lager. Doppelbock would probably be traditional for the time of year (allegedly a staple for German monks during Lent, or so I read somewhere on the internet). If you are not up to doing lagers, try it as a sticke altbier, take advantage of your Maine temps for cold conditioning. Or go with your instincts and don't brew based on those silly seasonal beer ideas; brew what you like and brew it well, and make those judges apologize profusely if they don't pick your 45 point beer because it is not seasonal enough for them. Thumb your nose at those fickle arbitrators while drinking great leftovers in the darkness of your beer cave.
     
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  20. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    There is a lot going on with those recipes. Why the DME? @jbakajust1 gave you some good pointers on how to go about a red ale. I’d do something more like that. You can scale it down to a lower abv if you want.
     
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