Looking for some suggestions. I entered into an agreed trade on both sides. It's been almost a week now since the last communication between us saying we both agree to said trade. Basically the guy has gone dead silent. Looking for feedback on how to proceed. Going radio silent and essentially backing out of the trade is not acceptable. Thanks
A bit more information would be helpful (for instance, did you have to go to any special effort to obtain the trade goods you planned to ship to your prospective trade partner?), but unfortunately, this remains something of a gray area in the trading forums. You can read over some of the bad trader threads to see how similar experiences have been handled, but as I'm sure you know, the scenario you're describing doesn't really qualify for creation of a BT thread. Based on past experiences, my guess is that your prospective partner got a better offer from someone else, and so decided to bail on his agreement with you. At present, that kind of behavior generally doesn't warrant creation of a bad trader thread. However, if you changed your position materially in reliance upon the trade agreement (in other words, you spent a bunch of money obtaining the beers agreed upon in the trade and have no way to recoup the value of that beer except through completion of the trade), in such instances we've been willing to relax the rules a bit and allow the creation of a bad trader thread. However, if you didn't have to go to any particular trouble to obtain the beers you planned to trade, then it would be my advice to walk away from this, and just put your prospective trading partner on your list of individuals never to trade with again.
Need a lot more detail. Is there an accepted BA trade request? Did you exchange addresses? Agree upon a shipping date? Who sent last BM? What did it say?
Agreed, more information. Also, did you guys have an agreed upon ship date? I am (perhaps) giving this person too much of a benefit of the doubt, but it is really cold and it is the holidays. I can kind of see how someone might just say "I'll get back to that guy in a week - we already locked in the trade, and it's cold."
OP doesn't have any open/pending trades, so it is save to say that. A trade request wasn't accepted. The rule here seem to be that a trade isn't locked down until the trade request is accepted. I suggest moving on and keeping your potential trade partner on your do not trade list.
Title of this thread may need to be changed to "OP has gone silent" ! @habanosdarklord , any update or answers to questions people have posed here?
Wild move. Was on today too. Maybe throw this one on Beer Trading Pet Peeves: people that create threads looking for feedback and then never return.
Shrug. The OP was posted only last Sunday, so it hasn't been all that long now. I've also noticed that he's been back online several times since he posted the OP without commenting on this thread, but then again, he really doesn't seem to have a history of being all that communicative. So maybe he's simply waiting to see if there are any more thoughts or suggestions before posting a response in this thread (just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt). If he doesn't respond by tomorrow, I'll let him know that I intend to close this thread down unless he provides an update and clarification as to what transpired with his trading partner. If he still doesn't respond, I'll shoot him a BM for an explanation and will post my results before closing down the thread.
Not cool. There may be an innocuous reason why OP disappeared from thread, or maybe there are some details since his post and interactions with other trader that he didn't want to bring to light. Sometimes these threads start with exposing someone, but end up exposing the person who created it. I sense some people's DNT trade lists might have increased by 1. Either way, not cool, people take the time to monitor these threads, provide input and try to help and OP goes missing. It could dissuade people from offering help in future threads, lessens the community as a whole.
All true, but even assuming there is some "nefarious" reason for his failure to follow-up on his OP, there's not much I/we can do about it. If he doesn't follow-up on his OP today, and if he doesn't respond to the BM I send him, the most I can do is pop him with a trolling warning (which is what I'll likely do).
Good afternoon @habanosdarklord. I'm showing that it's been roughly 5 days since your OP, at which time you asked for some suggestions and help concerning a problem with a recent trade. A number of members have responded to your post, expressing concern, providing advice, and asking for additional information/clarification. To date, we've heard not a peep back from you, and so at this point I think we'd all like to know if the original problem has now been resolved. If it has been, I'll go ahead and close down this thread. If the problem is still ongoing, perhaps you could provide us all with an update on the current status of the trade (and perhaps also provide the additional information requested by some of the other members on this thread). Thanks!
I'm not sure why people cared so much about OP going silent. He asked for opinion/help, you asked for more information in order to provide advice/help. He didn't proceed further so just ignore the thread, don't waste any more time, and let it die.
I think just the fact that it is impolite. Someone asks for help, you respond, and then when the community asks for an update to just not respond is fairly rude. I'm not quick to add people to a no-trade list, but if someone doesn't have the common courtesy to respond back to a post like this that they created, it is hard to imagine the person would have great communication in arranging a trade. (Communication is probably the #1 important trait to me.)
I'm mostly in this camp. Let's lock the thread and waste no more time on this. The only reason I think the thread is important - it's pretty difficult to take someone like this seriously when they ask the community for help or feedback, which probably makes a lot of us less inclined to comment on similar threads going forward. Respect your fellow BAs and their time. Let's move on.
I understand all of that and definitely wouldn't respond next time the OP asks a question. It's just above and beyond to have several people/posts demanded that he respond, tracking his online status, etc. ...bordering a bad trade post follow-up. Personally, I always respond and update those who try to help me, but when I respond to help someone on any forum, I do it out of my own free time and will, and don't expect any thanks or responses, even if I asked for further answers. I always assume that the person needing help got what he needed, with or without updating me, after communication stopped.
I guess I tend to take more of a "in the long run" viewpoint. I think it would be unfortunate for this type of behavior to become common, as in no time at all, requests for help or assistance would be met by the sound of crickets. Currently, when someone experiences a problem, or posts a request for help and assistance, he/she receives an absolute plethora of suggestions, recommendations, etc. We all come from different backgrounds, perspectives and experiences, and I can't tell you the number of times I've read suggestions and ideas for help/assistance that never crossed my mind. That's the benefit of receiving community input, and at present, that's what someone seeking help in this forum can pretty much count on. I'm not sure how much longer that will be the case if there are too many more instances similar to this one. Given that the OP specifically asked for suggestions from the community on how to proceed, and seeing as how that's exactly what he received, I don't feel it's unreasonable to expect the OP to take 10 or 15 seconds out of his day, and provide a brief update on the status of his problem. I'm showing that he's been back on BA a number of times since he posted his OP, and was even reading the responses in this thread earlier today. Anyway, I plan to send him a beermail information request, to see if he wants to pursue this further. If he doesn't, which is what I would assume at this point, then I'll just lock down this thread.
He just got back in touch with me. While he advsied the other trader still hasn't responded to him, he indicated I/we should close down the thread.
