Residual Sugars in beer?

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  1. TEKNISHE

    TEKNISHE Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Hi. I'm wondering if certain beers have a lot of sugar in them that remains unconsumed by the yeast? I realize of course alcohol is a sugar. As someone who avoids sugar, alcohol is my one exception. So I don't really want more sugar in my alcohol you see.
    But I suspect new england style IPAs have some leftover sugar and probably anything imperial. And the so-called milkshake IPAs seem to have a ton of sugar too. Do any brewers out there have any data on this? Like at what ABV threshold you start to see a bunch of residual sugar.
    Thanks
     
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  2. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    In general beer yeasts will consume between 70-80% of the sugars in the wort. There are some styles, like lambics and some sours, where they consume almost everything, but I'd venture that the majority of the beer you drink has a decent amount of residual sugar already.

    Has this been an issue for you health-wise? If so, then you might want to lean towards the drier styles.
     
  3. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    There are complex sugars in many (most?) beers that the yeast won't eat, thus the beers that have a lot of this type of sugar will taste sweet. Brewers also have other tricks that they can use to retain a sweet taste to a beer. Two beers that come quickly to mind are Southern Tier's Creme Brulee and their Choklat. But I don't know if NEIPAs are brewed to be sweet or if the hops are giving the sweet impression with the juiciness of the citrus and other fruit flavors.
     
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  4. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
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    Alcohol is not a sugar. Fermentation converts sugar to CO2 and ethyl alcohol. Fermentation usually doesn't convert all the sugars to CO2 and alcohol not matter what type of beer is brewed (i.e., attenuation).

    But your generally right that larger beers can have a lot of residual sugars, especially darker ales.
     
  5. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    If you don't want extra sugar in your beer, never drink Avery Rumpkin. Almost like they poured a little beer in a bottle of sugar.
     
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  6. mikeinportc

    mikeinportc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,735) Nov 4, 2015 New York
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    How does beer compare to wine? RS% is a normal spec of wine. Correlation between ABV & RS?
     
  7. edward_boumil

    edward_boumil Initiate (0) Jun 28, 2015 New York

    Well, if you want to avoid sugar probably the best metric I can think of is your taste buds. Anything that tastes sweet likely has a lot of residual sugar.

    But I mean to be completely fair here if you want to make an exception for alcohol but avoid sugar spirits are probably your best bet. I mean beer is essentially a bucket load of various starches and plant carbohydrates all mixed up with microbes. So if avoiding sugar is your goal here beer is going to be a minefield to navigate for you.
     
  8. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    If only we could get this information on the beer we drink (website, label, etc) like almost every other product we consume...
     
  9. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    All beers have some residual extract, but some certainly have more than others, like imperial stouts and barleywines.

    Your chemistry needs more chemistry, dude.

    Indeed it does.
     
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  10. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Although this is true, the body does use alcohol as an energy source by converting it into acetyl CoA via alcohol and aldehyde dehydrogenase (plus a bunch of other enzymes) and at 7 calories per gram it is almost twice as energy dense as carbohydrates (4 calories per gram).
     
  11. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    There is no direct answer to this as different beers and different wines have different ABVs and amounts of residual sugars, though wines tend to be in the same ABV range, beers can differ rather widely.

    I'm sure you could find it somewhere, but since beer and wine manufacturers aren't required to list specific gravity readings on their labels, it might be decently difficult.
     
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  12. Invinciblejets

    Invinciblejets Pooh-Bah (1,710) Sep 29, 2014 South Carolina
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    I have diabetes so have to watch my sugar very carefully. Tho I don’t.... I drink a ton of big adjunct stouts and neipas they usually make me feel like crap.
    Not sure where I’m going with this. But yeah. Beer probably has a lot of sugar. Don’t be like me if you have diabetes.
     
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  13. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    How does other beer affect you? Wine? Other booze?
     
  14. Invinciblejets

    Invinciblejets Pooh-Bah (1,710) Sep 29, 2014 South Carolina
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    Don’t drink enough other alcohol to tell.
    Sometime I drink beer and I’m fine other times it will hit me like a brick wall I’ll start getting dizzy, sweaty,...blurry vision I assume it makes my blood sugar spike.
    Seems to happen mostly with pastry stouts and neipas.
     
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  15. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Residuals sugars has been covered above... I have nothing to add.

    The "milk"shake IPAs often have added lactose, which is mostly unfermentable sugar added to beer for sweetness and body. Lactose is the defining ingredient in the traditional milk stout style, and you will often find it in the trendy modern so-called "pastry" stouts.
     
  16. TriggerFingers

    TriggerFingers Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2012 California

    “A bunch of residual sugar” is subjective. If it fits into the stylistic guidelines, then it’s “acceptable.”

    As a home brewer, I can tell you that all beer has residual sugars. Most of the final sugar content is in relation to the yeast attenuation and original gravity. Most yeast can only consume a certain percentage (range) of sugar. 65-80% is the usual attenuation.

    For the sake of brevity, the bigger the beer, the more sugar there will be in the original gravity/final gravity. There are exceptions to this of course. Some sours with exotic sacc/brett/lactic pitches come to mind. Highly attenuative Belgian strains are another that ive been able to get between 85-95% attenuation.

    Beers that are low in alcohol or those with a high level of attenuation will have less residual sugar and sound like your best bet.
     
  17. YadiBEER_Molina

    YadiBEER_Molina Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2017 Oregon

    Anybody have any guesses in terms of grams how much sugar is in an imperial stout?
     
  18. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    You talking a normal imperial stout or something from The Bruery?
     
  19. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    1.5 grams per oz....

    or to put it in perspective, less than a soda ~ 3.25 grams/per oz
     
  20. YadiBEER_Molina

    YadiBEER_Molina Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2017 Oregon

    A normal imp stout in the 10-12% abv.
     
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