'Catnip'/mint hop note

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  1. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    I've been getting a note like catnip from a lot of IPAs lately, or, arguably, it could interpreted as mint as well. It's very minty, cool, dank and weedy, but vaguely fruity as well. I've narrowed it down to what I believe may be either Chinook or Columbus. More likely Columbus, as Chinook usually comes across as very spicy pine to me, like fennel. Has anyone else experienced this hop note? Does anyone know what it might be from?
     
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  2. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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  3. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    That's interesting...haha. The catnip note I'm getting is from hops, but it's really interesting and fun seeing brewers use actual catnip. I bet catnip would be great in a saison or witbier, too.
     
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  4. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    That beer is pretty nice. I don't think I've ever had two in the same night, but I'll certainly grab one at some point in the evening if it's on tap.
     
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  5. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I get that note from a lot of different hops in a lot of different beers, sort of a light aromatic mintiness in the taste. I really like it,
     
  6. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    You've had catnip?
     
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  7. infuturity

    infuturity Crusader (490) Apr 26, 2015 Massachusetts

    I sometimes get that from a hop note.

    However, I have noticed it far more frequently with certain yeast strains.
     
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  8. superspak

    superspak Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,927) May 5, 2010 North Carolina
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    Fuggle, Northern Brewer, Perle, Polaris, and Progress are all quite minty. Never seen that from Columbus and Chinook. Both of those have more peppery and citrus rind notes.
     
  9. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    From WebMD:
    However, catnip is POSSIBLY UNSAFE when smoked or taken by mouth in high doses (many cups of catnip tea, for example).

    It can cause headaches, vomiting, and a feeling of being ill.

    LOL I don't see anyone brewing with it because of the possible side effects....
     
  10. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Lemondrop hops give me this flavor too. A lot of it. Stone Delicious IPA and Flying Dog Lemondrop DIPA both reminded me of mint, tea and "catnip"
     
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  11. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Columbus gives me a very distinct vibe of dark evergreen veering into dirt weed territory. I'm not familiar with catnip, but it's possible we're getting the same thing but describing it differently.
     
  12. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    I've had plenty of "mint" in beers as well, and not always IPAs, and as @cavedave says it's not always from specific hops - I think it might be due at least in part to how long the hops are left in contact with the beer, picking it up from the plant matter rather than the resins. Tea-like flavors seem to work in the same way, but I think those are more likely to come from specific hop varieties, but yes, you're certainly on to something.

    One day we'll look back on these conversations as stupid because we've learned so much and it's all so obvious but for now it remains very much a mystery. :slight_smile:
     
  13. Jay_P22

    Jay_P22 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2016 Virginia

    You sure it's not an onion taste?
     
  14. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    Cool and minty could refer to plenty of noble hops as well as the "bittering hops." I like it too. If it's dank it's a different hop than cool and minty. Minty herbal are not the same as dank and spicy which could also be spice or even pine. confused? Yeah drink more beer.
     
  15. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Do folks often confuse onion and mint? Asking for a friend.
     
  16. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    You never heard you can substitute mint for onion in a pinch?
     
  17. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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  18. mkh012

    mkh012 Pooh-Bah (1,787) May 7, 2015 Colorado
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    I don't know if I've ever gotten catnip, but definitely mint. Port Brewing Wipeout and Fremont Lush are two beers I can remember getting mint notes from.
     
  19. mikeinportc

    mikeinportc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,735) Nov 4, 2015 New York
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    @HorseheadsHophead , do you remember what beers?

    Fresh mint, or dried? I've sometimes noticed a somewhat bitter, lightly "minty" flavor such as what you would get from Monarda (Earl-Gray-tea-like flavor), or spearmint that's been in bloom for awhile , and fading.

    Depends on what constitutes a "high" dose (to humans :wink: ). Strong stuff, so the right amount for good beer might not be anything close to an unsafe level.
     
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  20. Tilley4

    Tilley4 Pooh-Bah (2,811) Nov 13, 2007 Tennessee
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    I get that minty note in Jai Alai quite often... I rather enjoy its uniqueness...
     
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