Do we really need the term Triple IPA???

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  1. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    I’ve always had a minor problem with the term, ‘double ipa’. You get a brewery whose ipa is 7.5% and their ‘double’ ipa is 8%. And I’m all...
     
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  2. PatrickCT

    PatrickCT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,776) Feb 18, 2015 Connecticut

    I like the term triple IPA When I see it I know to leave it.
     
  3. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    Local brewery in my area has a 11-12% IPA they call a “Quad IPA”....pretty sure that’s a modest ABV for such a name.

    Just stick with Imperial. 8% and above = Imperial (in my world).

    Edit: I just realized I’m echoing @beertunes comment exactly. Cheers dude!
     
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  4. InfiniteJester23

    InfiniteJester23 Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2017 Norway

    I genuinely evaluate/expect different things from a triple as opposed to a double.

    WC IPA: Hop aroma, bitter flavor should dominate. Malt just for balance.
    WC IIPA: Bigger hop aroma, but more balanced flavor. Malt should be noticeable, with a bitter kick.
    WC IIIPA: Same aroma as a double, but full sweet flavor. Malt sweetness and noticeable alcohol heat might even combine to completely swamp out bitterness.

    Just my two cents.
     
  5. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I know they say hops aren't addictive but didn't they use to say the same thing about pot? I know sometimes I'm jonesing for an IPA after I go on a lager or dark beer kick.
     
  6. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I don't see why there needs to be imperial styles of base styles if the only difference is the ABV. I understand that to get the higher ABV it takes more ingredients, which will change the flavor, but if that alone makes it a separate style, there will be an imperial version of every style. What next, Imperial Eisbock? :wink:
     
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  7. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Is there some reason we need to have the ABV listed on the label AND a cute name for something that identifies it less well?
     
  8. eppie82

    eppie82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,377) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
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    Calling something 'triple IPA' helps me when ordering/buying a beer because I right away think ~10%. It certainly helps me more than just seeing something labeled a pale ale, and then it ends up being 10.5% (see Permanent Funeral from 3Floyds).

    I don't see a big deal if that term exists, especially if it helps differentiate.
     
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  9. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    If it says imperial but doesn't have the ABV, it hides the fact that it is probably 2-4x stronger than a typical beer. Could be handy for those being limited to one beer a day. It can say imperial on the label without there being an imperial style.
     
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  10. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    The term is fine if it's just words on the label. They can call it "high-octane super ultimate turbo octo-IPA" for all I care.
     
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  11. eppie82

    eppie82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,377) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
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    That's a bit different. I expect that to be in the 25-30%.
     
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  12. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Probably would stay fresh longer too.
     
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  13. Junior

    Junior Pooh-Bah (1,883) May 23, 2015 Michigan
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    Then aren't your pretty disappointed when you try one that doesn't fit that bill. I think that I have only had one beer that was labeled as a Triple IPA, Devil Dancer. While not 'West Coast', to me it was just way too bitter and boozy. I guess that I have learned to stay away from most IIPA's that are more than 9.5% ABV, except Hopslam.

    Use of Triple III is a pet peeve of mine and I wish it would go away. I realize that it is a marketing gimmick. To me, it adds no value.
     
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  14. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Yes! Yes, there's a reason. I'm sure there's a reason. Or at least I think there's probably a reason. I mean, if there wasn't a reason then it wouldn't be reasonable would it.
     
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  15. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Well since I don't recall ever seeing the "III" designation anywhere I find it hard to be troubled by it.

    As for Triple it has a bit of a fuzzy meaning but is a rough indicator of ABV, more malts and more hops. E.g., I know that Devil Dancer will have higher ABV than most other IPAs and so can gauge my consumption accordingly, i.e., avoid just as you do, etc.

    So Triple works for me to add a bit of value just as much as does the Belgian designations of "Dubbel" and "Tripel." In addition to having different colors I expect the Belgian-style Tripel to have a higher ABV than a Belgian-style Dubbel. The lack of any precise cut off or dividing line doesn't much bother me much because the world has lots of fuzzy categories that aren't always differentiated by a sharp clear line.
     
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  16. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Most IPA's north of 9.5% I've always tended to dislike, but there are always a few rare exceptions. I had an 11% IPA from the Veil called "White Bugatti" that was groundbreaking and surprisingly good. In fact because of the challenges of pulling of a hop forward beer at that ABV at such a high level I gave it a perfect score, simply because I've never seen a brewery pull it off before (make an IPA that big that is hoppy, yet not bitter nor boozy.
     
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  17. hyndmanevan

    hyndmanevan Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2007 Indiana

    IPA = $5 for 16oz
    Double IPA = $6.25 for 10oz
     
  18. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    The craft beer world is full of rather useless marketing terms. Triple IPA is one of them.
     
  19. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    My first thought was also that labelling a beer IIPA or IIIPA was redundant or unnecessary since the abv is already printed on the can but, if you think about it, the term IIIPA is a quick way of explaining to a consumer why he or she should be willing to pay $5.00 a can instead of $3.50.
     
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  20. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    An increase in ABV doesn't always have to mean an increase in price. An increase in costs of production do, however.

    That said, if you're not reading the packaging of the beer that you buy, you're doing it wrong. If not for details about the beer that you're about to buy then at least for a best by or born on date to confirm freshness.
     
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