What is your brewhouse efficiency trend?

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  1. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    Curious on others brewhouse efficiencies with various strengths of beers. I batch sparge and use BeerSmith, FWIW. I have a fairly good grasp on my efficiency changes with various grist sizes, I am curious to what everyone else is seeing as far as trends go.

    Note, this is brewhouse efficiency (not mash efficiency).

    For my system, it tends to be:

    70-72% with beers 4-5% ABV
    68-70% with typical strength beers, 5-6% ABV
    64-68% with mid-sized 6-7% ABV
    62-64% around 7-8% ABV
    58-62% at around 8-10% ABV
    52-58% when 10%+ ABV
     
  2. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    75-80 on beers under 6.5 abv.
    Over that it's more like 60-65
     
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  3. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    No sparge 65% for above 6 percent
    70 percent for below 5 percent.
    Just lowered my crush on my last brew and got 75 percent but that is an outlier until I brew again and recreate it.
     
  4. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    75%-80% up to 20° Plato SG. It starts to dip heavily past that...
     
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  5. csurowiec

    csurowiec Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 Maryland

    I do BIAB with a dunk sparge which allows me to stir well every 10 minutes of the mash and not worry about doing a vorlauf or having a stuck sparge. I can then squeeze the bag like it owes me money. I pretty much get all the grain has to give. For these reasons my numbers may not be comparable. I get 83-85% on pretty much every beer with an OG of 1.065 or under. Bigger beers have been 70-72% but I don’t do enough of those to be able to say that is a consistent percentage.
     
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  6. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    big beers are overrated
     
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  7. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Big beers are under appreciated
     
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  8. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Excellent observation, which I have noticed myself as well and account for it when planning the brew day. My trend is about identical to yours except approximately 10-15% higher, ranging from about 85% on average at low ABV to 65% at very high ABV. Crush harder and you can get there... but at the expense of occasional stuck runoff.
     
  9. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    I do the same -- dunk sparge BIAB -- but don't stir and don't squeeze. The dunk sparge improves efficiency a TON compared to not.
     
  10. Lorianneb

    Lorianneb Pundit (919) Apr 27, 2012 New Jersey

    I fly sparge and get around 70% on beers
    7-8% and around 64% on bigger beers. I rarely make beer below 7%
     
  11. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    I buy my big beers cause aging big beers takes a long time and I don't want to drink a keg of 8-10 percent beer. It's a big risk in terms of time, material usage, and I'd have to bottle. I phrased what I meant incorrectly. I like big beers, I hate making them. Juice isn't worth the squeeze for me.
     
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  12. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Are you guys measuring brew efficiency every time? I only measure when I'm changing my crush or I have a greatly missed target OG and then I check my next brew day. Seems like overkill to check every time.
     
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  13. csurowiec

    csurowiec Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 Maryland

    I don’t measure every time. My process is always the same so that consistency makes my result the same. I also use my own recipes and crush my own grain immediately before dough-in for still more consistency. I also don’t sweat it if a beer is supposed to be 1.060 and I get 1.058 or 1.062.
     
  14. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    I crush quite fine already, I don't recall the gap but it's quite tight. Also, I will grind my wheat and husk-less additions into flour practically. Even have tried grain conditioning and all that, grinding even finer... My efficiency just tends to hold steady (basically, it's not relative to crush on my system at least). It's consistent for the ABV ranges, so that is the important thing.
     
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  15. Mohican88

    Mohican88 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2010 Ohio

    I intended to to plot the brewhouse efficiency from all my batches in excel and plot a line of best fit that would give me a pretty good estimate of my brewhouse from 3.5 to about 12% beers. Haven't gotten around to it, but this thread may inspire me to get it done.
     
  16. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    I thought the same exact thing... lol
     
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  17. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Here's mine. Been tracking it for 10 years.

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  18. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Those 90s are very impressive
     
  19. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    @Prep8611 oh dam I thought when you came to Vermont we'd split a batch of 10%, lol.

    I love making big beers for the reasons you don't. Ageing, extra ingredients, sampling over 1 year or more all add to the pagentry.
     
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  20. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    I should always provide the following asterisk:

    * My efficiency is higher than average because I am a small batch brewer of 2-2.5 gallons, so boiloff rate tends to be 24-32%, so I can sparge a hell of a lot more than the rest of ya's, thus capturing more sugars per unit weight of grain. If you want to improve efficiency, moving to smaller batches is yet-another way to accomplish it.

    Cheers.
     
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