Non-Hazy IPAs That Get Hype?

FWIW, I had one with Mosaic that was clear-ish, though it also smelled strongly of feet. So there’s that. The Citra from a month ago was lightly hazy, still able to be seen through but not the bright beer you’d buy from Sierra Nevada, for example, but also crazy sweet fruity and still with the softer body typical of the style. So...yeah. I don’t know where that leaves us, other than (TH) Bright can be fantastic but bright beers not from TH don’t generate hype

 

Nope just my personal, biased, opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. I leave the scientific research up to people more qualified than myself.

 

that's a pretty huge assertion to put out there without a leg to stand on. I've had several clear beers that I would call "juicy".

 

Should note. Does lagunitas born yesterday count? At least the 2016 version that I had had some real Ne Juicy elements and that one was relatively clear. For a couple weeks in October, I definitely think it gets some hype.

 

Um...we're talking beer here it doesn't need to be any more complicated. I say I've never had a clear beer that was at all similar to the best NEIPAs, and I sincerely doubt that it's possible, which is not to say I don't like them, but that they can't attain those same qualities. Sorry if I insulted your fragile ego. But my opinion is as valid as yours. That's the beauty of personal opinions.

 

Except for the part where you pigeonholed an entire group of people who don't hold the same opinion as you, that had nothing to do with beer. Your hubris is not lost on me, that's for sure. I would love to get you behind a blindfold and see if your palate is as finely tuned to beer as you believe it is.

 

The Melvin's should fit the bill.

Cheers!

 

^^^ This.

It is completely possible to make a clear beer smell and taste like a cloudy one. That is not an opinion. That's a fact.

 

Although I completely agree with what you have said and have had similar experiences, to say that it's impossible to make a clear beer that is aromatic and juicy with an increased mouthfeel and low perceived bitterness isn't terribly accurate either.

 

While I agree with this, there are clear IPAs that a blind taster would identify as hazy.

 

I think you'd be able to do it with a grainbill higher in beta-glucans AND a yeast strain that's an above average glycerol producer.

 

I guess that we need to talk about how clear you want this beer to be. Crystal clear is probably never going to happen in a beer that's dry hopped to the extent that most NEIPAs are without fining.

That said, this:



isn't this:

 

Have you a link to those data that can be shared?

 

I will post a link tonight. My phone won't allow me to copy and paste. If you search the mountain forum for "ipa tasting" it comes up in the favorite Colorado ipa thread.

 

I don't know if it's hyped, but Amalgamator doesn't stay on shelves for long around here.

 

My palate is not great. I have no prob admitting that. Nor did I claim to be a cicerone or any such thing. But I can sure tell the difference between the two types of IPA. Until proven otherwise I will continue to believe that no clear IPA can taste, and more importantly, feel like a Treehouse IPA, for instance. Hell even so called "hazy" IPAs don't come close.

 

If you're using Treehouse as the gold standard for NEIPAs, you're going to continue to have this "problem".