Biggest beer pet peeves

Ugg. Really? If someone wants to spend $100 bucks on a bottle of wine ( or more) it's their money. Would they appreciate it? That is a whole 'nother matter. Rare stuff? It's just a beverage meant to be consumed. I made a fabo rob roy with some 16 yr old Lagavulin, best ever. Would I do it all the time, nope, but it fit the moment.

 

Malty IPAs. Especially caramel malt.

 

OK . . . now that that's fixed here we go:

Your suspicion is incorrect. People aren't using the phrase "adjunct stout" because it is simpler than listing the spice additions. They are using it because they think spices are adjuncts. That is wrong.

Let me tell you how this probably went. Some brewer somewhere brewed an imperial stout with oatmeal in it and labeled it an adjunct stout. Said imperial stout also had spices in it. Beer geeks then mistook the labeling to mean that adjuncts were spices and now we are in the mess that we are in.

Sure, people use incorrect terms all the time. However, if those people are told that their usage of the term is incorrect, yet keep using the term incorrectly fulling knowing that it is incorrect, they are, by definition, foolish.

Who said correcting someone because they are wrong is treating them like they are stupid or talking down to them? People need to put aside their egos and accept that sometimes they are wrong. This, again, is a glaring generational issue. When people become offended because someone that knows more than them pleasantly informs them that they might want to check their facts, people stop learning and egocentric stupidity wins out over the dissemination of information.

These are the buzzwords that people use when they cannot fathom being incorrect, yet demonstrably are. Admitting that you are wrong or that you don't know something (perish the thought) is the first step in learning. You can't learn if you think that you already know everything and are closed minded about anyone telling you differently. Realizing that you have a lot to learn is the first step to maturity. Unfortunately, less and less people are making that realization.

 

I think we need a throw down for the add junk battles of 2018. Thinking cage match, bare knuckles. Whole grapefruits, 5 lb bags of oats, giant vanilla pods bundled, kaffir limes, big bags of marshmallows......One could wager based on the fighter and the add junk of choice used.

 

not being able to finish a flight. Can't like every beer for sure but when you go to a place rated almost perfectly and can't get through more than an oz of any beer

 

I'll add to this, not finishing a beer of any size. I see people leaving half drank beers at the pub all the time. It flummoxes me something terrible. Same goes for half eaten plates of food though. Just can't stand people wasting stuff. If you order something be a big boy or girl and make a fucking happy plate.

 

Eagle Rare 17 Manhattan? Don't mind if I do.

 

And another thing: You go to a brewer's web site and you have to verify that you're of legal drinking age before you can view the content. This never made any sense to me. Does anyone ever click on "NO" or enter his real birth date? This nanny-state crap pisses me off.

 

Only with homemade cherries and Antica Formula for vermouth. Clear ice, boil twice and let cool, ice picked of course.

 

Belgian brewers do it and German brewers do it too.

https://www.trappistwestmalle.be/en/our-trappist-beers

https://www.weihenstephaner.de/en/our-beers/


Personally if I were running a brewery or distillery or winery and knew that I could be sued by the parents of underage drinkers for letting those people view the contents of site I'd put up one of those front pages as well.

 

I always thought the "21+" acknowledgement was state run (although I've never checked)? Some sites don't have it, most do. Maybe breweries that have questionable labels about sex.. OKAY. Beyond that, at what point would a brewery be ripe for a lawsuit? Beer isn't ****, it's an honest business. Beer is advertised on free TV. Parents take their kids to breweries all the time...it's legal.

If a child is allowed to run free on the internet, they'll most likely either be gaming, chatting to some degree on social media, or (like my youngest son) getting slammed by pop-up **** because he went to a bad web link. I think a lawsuit against a brewery would be pretty damn frivolous, with little, to no merit. Hold the parents responsible if their kid won't be!

 

Not really a legal "nanny-state" situation - it is done voluntarily by most brewers (but not all - see for example Anchor Brewing Co.) and is recommended by both The Beer Institute (aka "the big brewers" org.) and the craft-oriented Brewers Association, whose Advertising Code includes:

I'm sure the TTB also suggests it, but their website isn't the easiest to search.

 

You absolutely should do this to help your case if you ever end up in a lawsuit. Since I got into craft, I thought that if I ever won the lottery it would be cool to invest in a brewery or independent taproom. But then I get thinking of the liability, particularly where you serve it. We live in an increasingly litigious society and it makes sense to take some steps to avoid being successfully sued; disclaimers, ID checks, cameras, etc help. Many folks can't or won't police their consumption, and when that happens everyone involved is at risk.

It is an annoying delay having to enter a date. Anyone bother to put their actual birth date? I just pick the default month and day, then pick a ridiculously old year. Lots of 100+ year old drinkers I bet.

 

There's plenty bad beer and bad food out there. I'm not finishing anything I don't like. It's wasteful to use ingredients to prepare poor quality goods. It's not wasteful to not want to finish shitty beers and dishes under some guise of manliness or adulthood.

 

Some of these have already been posted but 1. Uninformed bartenders. Ones that pretty much know nothing about beer or styles or tastes. 2. Yes the one that merely says the name of the brewery without telling you the name of the beer because they don't have a clue. 3. Stores or bars or restaurants that sell old stock. Distributors discount it to clear inventory at customers expense. 4. If I walk into a place and the first words uttered are we have Bud, Bud Light, Miller, Miller Lite, 64, Coors, Coors Light and Michelob Ultra on special. I quickly excuse myself and run out the door. My bad.

 

Inverse of this is when my local hasn't entered a single beer sku# and they charge me generic pricing ($1.99 I believe) for KBS and the like.

 

Completely understand this. I wouldn't finish a plate of bad food or a bad beer either. However, I tend to not go to places that serve either, so that's not the problem that I'm seeing. I think that it's pretty funny that you're insinuating that I go to places that do, though.

 

@dcotom

When I made my original reply to your post about "nanny state" laws I didn't realize it would result in a mini thread. So I guess I should probably elaborate a bit more.

As pointed out by @jesskidden, US based brewery websites mostly seem to put the verification front page on their website because it is recommended by a professional organization. It does not seem to be required by any kind of law. (But I'd bet dollars to donuts that those breweries large/profitable enough to have a lawyer's advice all do it. Also, note that some of the cumbersome parts of completing the front page are the result of choices made by the web page designer and are not legally or brewery dictated choices.)

http://www.geirman.com/2013/03/age-verification-for-alcohol-websites-is-it-required-by-law/


@spelingchampeon asks why worry about a law suit if underage drinkers view your site and suggests such a law suit would seem to be frivolous. While that certainly seems reasonable there is no shortage of lawsuits that are frivolous.

https://abovethelaw.com/2015/12/top-10-frivolous-lawsuits-list-is-frivolous-but-funny/

Also, some apparently frivolous lawsuits have turned out to have been viewed differently in the courtroom and by a jury.

https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/top-ten-frivolous-lawsuits

So my bottom line would be that if you can avoid a lawsuit, frivolous or not, by the simple addition of a front page, why would you want to risk spending the time and money required to deal with such a law suit should it arise?


As @bbtkd points out it would seem to be the case that a brewer having the age verification front page would strengthen their defense in the event of a frivolous lawsuit. (He also mentions that it's easy enough to just put in a bogus number.)

He may be 100% correct about strengthening the defense against a frivolous lawsuit but he may just be correct for a wrong reason. Putting in bogus information is itself a violation of the law.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/liquor-website-age-verification_us_59c3b549e4b06f93538cdd18

 

It's good to know I'm not the only beer drinker born on January 1st in 1919, or was it 1975...? No, I think I picked 1945 last. Probably looks like an old folks home for January 1st babies has a few craft beer consumers.