When your local brewery losses its true essence

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  1. McFinniganOfTheFinnigans

    McFinniganOfTheFinnigans Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2017 Maine

    At what point do feel like your local brewery has lost its true essence? The reason you'd go almost every day. For me it was the fact that I have options, but I make a point to go once a week. Or if I end up somewhere where it's on tap I drink it.

    However, this said brewery has lost what made it; it.

    Many breweries now sell online and it's great for out of staters, but I question what the locals feel. Do you feel it's great? Or do feel here's a crap brewery you found an opportunity without putting any real personal definition into it? Nothing about it says you can't get this unless it's from this brewery?

    Curious because I have a few breweries I love, but I'm starting to taste a drop off in product quality.
     
  2. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    It isn’t easy trying to figure out what it is you’re trying to say.
     
  3. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Lol at the drop off in product quality. You've just tasted other things, and what's new is what's interesting.
     
  4. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Initiate (0) Feb 23, 2012 New Jersey

    I'm not sure what you are complaining about :
    1) did the quality drop off ?
    2) change the styles they brew?
    3) is it too crowded?
    4) Did they stop brewing your favorite beer
    5) Are you just not happy because the masses discovered your favorite little brewery
     
  5. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Strangely enough, I understand your quandary.

    Let's put it this way . . . when your local brewery stops making you feel special, you should stop going.

    Now I'm going to go back to drinking a lovely lager, which most local breweries don't bother making because they don't have the patience or skill.

    Fuck local. I'm drinking the best beer available to me. Local or otherwise.
     
  6. puck1225

    puck1225 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,585) Dec 22, 2013 Texas
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    Something like this happened with one of our local breweries. Used to love to pick up a pizza, or take cheese and crackers, out to this brewery and have a few pints and eat my food. Then they instituted no out side food or drink, including soft drinks.

    After they would not let my daughter bring in her root beer, I decided their beer wasn’t that good and there are other options.

    To local brewers: keep it loose and friendly.
     
  7. WesMantooth

    WesMantooth Grand Pooh-Bah (4,844) Jan 8, 2014 Ohio
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    When they start making hazy IPAs that taste more like jucie or mimosas than beer
     
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  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Have you had a heartfelt conversation with the owners/brewers of your local brewery? One of the advantages of the drink local movement is that the local brewery folks can obtain regular and timely feedback from their customers and choose to respond (or not) to their customers inputs. Nothing beats a face-to-face conversation but it takes two parties to converse.

    Cheers!
     
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  9. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Go on, play the field :wink:
     
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  10. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    My local breweries piss me off because they make extremely mediocre beer
     
  11. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    First brewery around here was/is a large Brewpub called Gilded Otter, that has a very talented brewer. He never tried knocking things out of the park back in the old days, but all his beers used to be clean, tasty, refreshing, and solid versions of the styles.

    Talk about location, not only is the building beautiful, and large, and set up incredibly well with a beautiful bar, and a copper brewhouse, and a full professional kitchen, and has mountain views from side seating, and is next to the Mohonk River making it even nicer, but the best rail trail in our county runs almost through the parking lot of the place and a constant stream of bikers and hikers pass by. They decided, I guess, that good beer was not a necessity for success, because over the years they have just gotten worse and worse. All their rotating specialties, their best beers, were discontinued. All their regulars were dumbed down and taste like cheap ingredients and no care in production to me now. Luckily there are a "couple" other good breweries around here now, so it is hardly missed.

    tl;dr Gilded Otter used to be solid, sucks now for a buncha reasons. Had a gradual beer decline over the years even as it stays successful as a business
     
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  12. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Yup, when people no longer know my name it’s time for a new place.
     
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  13. OntheLambic

    OntheLambic Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2015 Connecticut

    Perhaps it is your taste that is changing, not the essence of the brewery itself?

    ISO: True Essence NE IPA
     
  14. SaisonRichBiere

    SaisonRichBiere Pooh-Bah (2,033) Mar 23, 2011 Michigan
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    I’m all for drinking local as much as I can. In the past few years in the locales that I have lived in, I’ve been fortunate to try several local breweries, many of them new and growing. My biggest turn-off is when a brewery seems to lose focus on true-to-style beers to produce adjunct products to cater to the non-Beer drinking set. I totally understand broadening your portfolio to attract customers, but when your pale ale, brown ale, or stout need some work, it’s maddening to see “blood orange wit” or “coconut key lime kettle sour” being pushed. Especially when those beers are sub-par as well.
     
  15. pbrian

    pbrian Pooh-Bah (2,118) Feb 8, 2001 Connecticut
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    Local breweries stopped being cool when everyone started going to them.
     
  16. Troutbeerbum

    Troutbeerbum Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2016 Maine

    I’ve found a lot of local breweries opening these days aren’t into brewing beer, they’re into making money.It’s “the thing” these days.
     
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  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And in a way that is a damn shame.

    A number of craft breweries that started 20-ish years ago were founded by passionate brewers who had a 'business plan' of: we will brew the beers we like and hope that others will enjoy drinking them too.

    I suppose that it would be unrealistic to expect that as the craft beer industry matures that a differing sort of folks would be entering the market,

    Cheers!
     
  18. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Welcome to the mid 90s again :wink:. I guess we know what comes next...
     
  19. Eddiehop

    Eddiehop Pooh-Bah (2,122) Jun 28, 2014 Texas
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    One of the oldest craft brewers in North Texas which I'll leave unnamed used to boast several years ago about their traditional brewing methods and just using 4 ingredients in their beers, and went so far as to say they would never chase the trends.

    Fast forward to today, and they'e chasing every trend in the market with the adjunct' and hazy ipa's not because they wanted to, but because they had to, in order to remain competitive.

    It's just funny to look back at it now with the owner standing on his soapbox during the brewery tours touting how he would never do this. Funny how things change.
     
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  20. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    What do you and other customers think about these new beers?

    I was recently in correspondence with a commercial brewer of a smaller brewery asking me for some tips to brew a so called 'NE' style IPA (e.g., which yeast strain to use, what grains to augment the barley malt, etc.). I neglected to ask what was the specific motivation to brew a 'NEIPA'. I just assumed that he was getting lots of requests from his customers to brew these latest 'shiny' new beer that everybody is talking about and desiring.

    Cheers!
     
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