Controversial Beer Opinions Thread

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Kraz, Feb 14, 2018.

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  1. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    The point is that cask beer actually has very little aroma because of its lower carbonation levels.It doesn't seem to affect the enjoyment though :slight_smile:
    I can honestly say that I have never noticed any difference in experience when drinking a pint with an oversized head (sometimes there is too much head and I am asked to drink some beer to allow a full pint to go into the glass)
    Of course, with pint to brim glasses and the expectation to receive full measure a large head is regarded as unwelcome.
    Attempts to introduce oversized glasses with pint markings have proved unpopular and few pubs persist with them.
     
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  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
    In Memoriam

    As I indicated, the retro nasal aromatics can be quite enjoyable, but that doesn't mean that there is no flavor contribution to be made by the foam and ortho nasal aromatics.

    Whether we notice it or not during our casual drinking experiences the effects of foam (both touch and aromatics) can make a difference in the flavor we perceive. (There is actually a bit of controversy over whether effect of foam is in the aromatics or the sense of touch but there is no doubt foam or it's absence can influence the perception of flavors.)
     
  3. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
    In Memoriam

    While not focused specifically on beer, here's an interesting science based practical application of some of the sensory science research findings. The author points to and bases much of his discussion on the work of researchers mentioned in his essay.

    https://www.greatbritishchefs.com/features/importance-of-aroma-jozef-youssef
     
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  4. wesinator

    wesinator Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2015 Connecticut

    Black ipa’s are awesome ! We need more .

    Only once in my life has a session beer not been a complete waste of time

    English barleywine is trash drool

    Any craft brewery that strives to make it possible for everyone to try they’re beer is going to go out of business

    I’m convinced Sam Adams really only makes 5 beers

    Most coffee stouts don’t taste like they have coffee in them.

    I can’t respect people who only like one type of beer.

    Every time I’ve accidentally aged a dry hopped ipa for more than a month I think it tastes better
     
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  5. wesinator

    wesinator Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2015 Connecticut

    Great idea for a forum by the way
     
  6. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    That statement is extremely controversial :wink:
     
  7. wesinator

    wesinator Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2015 Connecticut

    I’m sorry, I knew I was too progressive! I’ll leave now
     
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  8. InfiniteJester23

    InfiniteJester23 Initiate (0) Apr 26, 2017 Norway

    This doesn't necessarily apply to Wesinator, but that post made me think of this:

    99% of all additive stouts only taste like the additive for a fairly short time after it is added to the beer, so aging an additive stout is usually pretty silly at best, and an expensive way to get an aged version of the base beer at worst.

    99% of all additive stouts only taste like the additive for a fairly short time after it is added to the beer, so if a brewery can't make their BA stout drinkable at release, they aren't a good enough brewery to make an additive stout.
     
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  9. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Not quite sure exactly what "strives to make it possible for everyone to try they’re [sic] beer" means, but if it's national distribution, that has not been the case.

    BBC, Sierra Nevada and New Belgium all are available coast to coast (as are a few other smaller breweries) and they haven't gone out of business and are the three largest breweries that were founded during the "craft era".
     
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  10. wesinator

    wesinator Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2015 Connecticut

    What I meant but didn’t say accurately was that it worked then and those breweries will probably be fine going forward but I don’t think it’s good for a brewery that is currently small to try and be the next Sierra Nevada. The way the market is now it’s all about what came out this week, what can someone try that they haven’t had before, what is available in limited quantities so I have to get it right now. I just think it’s unlikely for a “new” brewery to become coast to coast now and be successful
     
  11. HopsDubosc

    HopsDubosc Pundit (803) Apr 24, 2015 Vermont

    I totally agree. Not too long ago we stopped in at 7th Settlement Brewing in Dover NH on the way to Portland ME. Food was great, beer was very solid, servers were friendly, and place was packed. They have a strict no-tipping policy, and while the prices may have been slightly higher than normal, it was a great experience. I'd like to see more places follow suit.
    http://www.7thsettlement.com/
     
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  12. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    I would like to see more of this as well. A strict no tip policy with higher prices to fairly compensate the servers is a good idea. Those of us who have spent enough time in restaurants or bars over the years have seen the occasional patron with a mini God complex who is determined to make the server "work for a tip". I've even gone so far as to tip the server myself even if I was at a different table.
     
  13. young_skunk

    young_skunk Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2017 Illinois

    Backwoods Bastard >>> KBS/CBS

    Barleywines > stouts (BA or not)
     
  14. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    This is not as controversial as you'd think.

    These, on the other hand, are fighting words.
     
  15. wesinator

    wesinator Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2015 Connecticut

    I guess I I gotta try backwoods bastard
     
  16. Lahey

    Lahey Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    I'd say BBA scotty karate (dark horse brewing) is better than backwoods bastard. I don't know if this is controversial, as dark horse doesn't seem to have much of a following on here. So they're a bit of an unknown. But that's what my taste buds say.
     
  17. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I agree with your assessment, though not your wardrobe. Perhaps biased due to being from Wisconsin, I prefer Central Waters BA Scotch Ale over Backwoods Bastard, but it's real close and they're both outstanding.
     
  18. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    How is that even enforceable? I cannot be stopped from expressing my gratitude with cash. I'll leave it on the table, and if they try to hand it back, I'll let it fall to the floor. a few restaurants in Seattle tried to institute No-tips policies a few years ago, and the customer push-back was amazing. Their sales fell so dramatically, cuz folks weren't coming in, that after a few weeks they rescinded the policy, and the customers flocked back.
     
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  19. Lahey

    Lahey Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2016 Michigan

    If waldos was 18-20 bucks a sixer instead of 13, it would probably be a shelf turd. Not to say it's not good beer, but I believe price/abv ratio drove a ton of the hype.
     
  20. cmiller4642

    cmiller4642 Maven (1,399) Aug 17, 2013 West Virginia

    Bell's Black Note>>>>>>>>>>> KBS

    not even close
     
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