Wax Seals: Why?

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  1. huthuty

    huthuty Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2017 Utah

    To look fancy, maybe one in a billion cases it actually prevents a seal from being compromised maybe. I hate those and foil coverings because I'm always afraid they'll end up in my beer
     
  2. Premo88

    Premo88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,670) Jun 6, 2010 Texas
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    Why wax seals?

    One of Paw-Paw's favorite sayings comes to mind:

    To make you ask questions.

    :laughing::rofl::laughing:

    RIP, H.I.!
     
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  3. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (2,306) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
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    Maybe the wax is there to make you work harder for the precious content.
     
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  4. rudiecantfail

    rudiecantfail Pooh-Bah (1,927) Aug 9, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    1.) It looks cool.
    2.) It drives up the perceived value of the product, i.e. "if it's so fancily packaged it must be worth more money". Two cents of wax adds a lot more than two cents to the price. Just smart business.
     
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  5. traction

    traction Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2010 Georgia
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    AFAIK Terrapin specifically only does this for their limited release and one-off release beers. I agree with everyone else that it is done to make the beer look more fancy and to drive up the perceived value a little bit. I read your review, glad you enjoyed the Cherry W-n-B as much as I did! The people I have shared it with didn't enjoy it as much as I did and thought the cherry flavor took away from the beer but I disagree. I still have another bottle laying around for a special occasion. You should try the Cinnamon Roll'd W-n-B if you ever come across it it also has a wax seal on it but there is delicious beer hiding underneath it.
     
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  6. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    I believe one notion is that if your kid/wife's friend/insert other random house guest is rifling through your beers, the wax will indicate that the beer is special/looks different than the others and be noticed, and generally the PITA part of opening might make them choose something else.

    FYI The Bruery membership this year included a "Whaleshark" bottle opener, which is little goofy looking, at the same time kind of intense, but man does it slice through wax like it's nothing. Looks like you can buy them on Etsy if you aren't doing a full embargo on waxed bottles.
     
  7. gopens44

    gopens44 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,560) Aug 9, 2010 Virginia
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    This is correct - color was off and wax only extended like a half inch below the cap, but I think the best and most pathetic run he took at it was like colored foil or something? Maybe it was a different jackass, as there was a couple counterfeiters going on at one time.
     
  8. raynmoon

    raynmoon Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2011 Colorado

    Shoot, you're right, I forgot social media existed. :grin:
     
  9. traction

    traction Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2010 Georgia
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    It would be interesting watching someone trying to bootleg this wax job with the cereal built in...
     
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  10. DISKORD

    DISKORD Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2017 South Carolina

    Wax makes it more rare/special. And by adding wax, they can easily add an extra $10 to the price.
     
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  11. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Pooh-Bah (2,681) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    Cue Greg's Beer Reviews... adds cost to the beer!
     
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  12. deleted_user_995920

    deleted_user_995920 Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2015

    They are trying to be nostalgic for earlier times, when a wax seal was commonly used. I believe it was mainly used for hard spirits. Also Makers Mark used it and became symbolic with top shelf,until they were bought out by Sunatory beverage in Japan. (I am sure the bourbon is the same) , since there is a high turnover with beer it would not be practical to use wax. It is a modern gimmick for beer .
     
  13. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    It's decorative, mostly. I'm sure you can age your beer, and stuff. But. Meh.
     
  14. traction

    traction Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2010 Georgia
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    I'm not really a liquor drinker but I'm fairly sure in 2018 that makers mark isn't considered top shelf. They definitely made the wax seal famous though.
     
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  15. BeerPugz

    BeerPugz Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2016 Wisconsin

    I enjoy the wax. After opening enough they become easy to open.
     
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  16. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    But I'm confused - their statement about imaging via SEM suggests that perhaps the cork itself was coated in wax prior to insertion into the bottle. This would be much different than covering the bottle cap in wax. Interesting.
     
  17. ShawnoftheD3ad

    ShawnoftheD3ad Savant (1,078) Mar 20, 2016 Illinois
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    I like the wax. Let’s me know that when I’m drunk and opening the fridge I shouldn’t touch the bottle.
     
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  18. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Yes, it's my understanding as well that the cork was coated in wax before insertion in the bottle and so far as I can tell this was a control to ensure that they had a tight seal and could conduct their measurements, etc. The indications are that the seal was complete.

    It certainly does seem different than putting the cork in a wine bottle, or capping a beer bottle, and then dipping in wax because the wax covers any possible opening from the outside and is not in between, say, the cork and the glass. But the critical question would be, "Does that difference make any difference?"

    If either a corked wine bottle or a beer bottle capped with a crown is waxed, that is done effectively by dipping the end of the bottle a couple of inches into a pan of hot wax. The wax then coats and sticks to the outside of the neck of bottle and should completely cover any possible oxygen ingress point. Wax when hot enough to be liquid enough for dipping has also expanded. As the bottle is dipped and then pulled out the wax begins to cool around the neck and also shrinks. So there should be a tight seal if the dipping is done correctly.

    Effectively the sealing effect of the wax should be much the same even though the method is different.

    As many have pointed out, if the beer is not going to be cellared for an extended period of time the effect of waxing the bottle mostly appearance or marketing and not much on preservation of the liquid inside. If I'm bottling an IPA, waxing it would probably be a waste of wax and time, however, if I'm bottling a Barley Wine and it's going to sit in the cellar for 20 years....
     
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  19. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Just to fucking annoy us.
     
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  20. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Actually it's targeted at annoying you in particular. The rest of us are just innocent bystanders... :wink:
     
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