New Beer Sunday (Week 691)

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  1. CanConPhilly

    CanConPhilly Grand Pooh-Bah (4,421) May 17, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Happy Sunday, NBS crew! I know it’s only May, but the beer below deserves to be in the conversation for Beer of the Year. This brew is better than any Tired Hands, Tree House, Trillium, or Veil I’ve had this year. Given my fanboyism for these 4 breweries, that is saying a lot.

    If you have any opportunity to acquire this beer, you need to jump on it.

    Everyone Stands Beneath Their Own Dome of Heaven - Root + Branch
    DIPA - 8% abv
    Purchased for $6 at Threes’ Bottle Shop
    Canned 5/2/18 (18 days ago)
    Rating: 4.59 (-0.6% rDev)

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    L - 1.5 finger offwhite head appears low in density, but somehow manages to stay in place for many minutes. Body is a vibrant, sun-catching orange.

    S - orange, pineapple, grapefruit, some tropical fruits. No trace of booze.

    T - wow. This is so juicy. Pineapple on the front, then a blast of orange. Bitter grapefruit follows. Incredibly clean, smooth middle. Low bitterness, low sweetness, zero booziness.

    F - thick, almost full bodied, creamy brew. Somehow they managed to keep the carb alive in this one too, which is a feat.

    O - this is the juiciest ipa I’ve ever tasted. Ever. Beyond Trillium. Beyond TH. Not even a trace of booze. It’s all juice (attention @JackHorzempa ). Now I get the ratings. I wish I had managed to snag a 4-pack of this, rather than a single.
     
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  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The BJCP would not 'specify' a detail such as this. Modern day malts are highly modified and consequently a single temperature infusion mash will achieve a proper conversion of starches to sugars. Some brewers may decide to do 'more' than a single temperature infusion mash for other reasons/beliefs.
    Lagering times vary among brewers based upon a number of thought processes with sometimes it just being a matter of that is what I have always done and it 'works' for me. I am that sort of brewer - when I produce moderate gravity lagers (and Kolsch & Alt beers) my personal practice is to lager for something like 4-6 weeks. It is entirely possible I could achieve similar results with a lagering duration less than this but frankly I have never made the effort to find out. FWIW, for my homebrewed Kolsch which is still in the bottle conditioning phase right now I lagered that batch for 4 weeks.

    Cheers!
     
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  3. CanConPhilly

    CanConPhilly Grand Pooh-Bah (4,421) May 17, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Disappointed that the taste is weak, but I’m still picking one up based solely on your 2 pics. Wowza! :heart_eyes:
     
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  4. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    Cheers you all I'm back. Today I want to do what I like to call a follow up pairing within a meal and I am choosing to try and follow the kolsch I tasted earlier with the pilsner style. I am making an original dish to go with both beers and the idea is to match flavors not contrast them in food and beer pairing. My dish today features grapefruit as my citrus and the kolsch I had today with it's white wine like ester ( not pear) and sensual sticky resin is a perfect match in my opinion. The beer I have decide not to pair with my dish is this beer and I would like to tell you why and what beer I have decided should come after the kolsch in my meal today.

    This is metric Pils by Industrial Arts Brewing

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    Handsome almost frosty pale yellow with a thick head of eggshell colored foam that dwindles lazily. Nose is sweet grasses and fresh herbs. cracker malt and light peppery spice. Drinks smoothly with a firm breaddy malt that does not show any brown on the bread crust. Firm malt and generous herbal hops. Creamy mouthfeel with just a few bubbles to finish it. Hops and malt finish almost evenly in this beer and it has an assertive and very clean bitterness. I am wondering if this beer used pale malts or a combination of malts because I perceive hints of lemon from these noble hops although there is no real lemon flavor. Just the suggestion of the lemon backing on these hops. Although I think this beer is very good and you can see that from my score, I am not going to pair this beer with my dish because frankly I do not want to combine lemon and grapefruit on my palate. Instead of this pilsner I will be following the kolsch with Ellicottville NEIPA Something Hazee. cheers and Happy Two Beer Sunday!
     
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  5. Lingenbrau

    Lingenbrau Grand Pooh-Bah (4,853) Apr 9, 2011 Oregon
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    American maltster products, yes, but I was under the impression that most German maltsters (i.e. Weyerman, BestMalz) were still traditionally grown, unmodified products(?).
     
  6. WunderLlama

    WunderLlama Grand Pooh-Bah (4,820) Dec 27, 2010 Massachusetts
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    nota new brewery, Firestone Walker has been around for a bit. here is my review of their Velvet Merkin

    Love the name

    2017 edition

    Bottle poured into teku glass

    Brown liquid , thin taupe foam ring

    Aroma of gentle bourbon, raisins, toffee, vanilla, espresso

    Taste is bourbon without the alcohol burn, the oatmeal smooths it out

    Light mouth feel

    Good beer
     
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  7. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Thanks to @cjgiant for the lead. It's been a gorgeous spring here in Germany - so many colors and the weather has been great. Squeezed in an 11 mile run this morning, which is the longest since fracturing my femur last September. Shooting for the Long Beach Marathon in October. I always reward myself with a beer (or a few) after a long run. Trying this one for the first time, but have been dreaming about it for a very long time.

    This is Kuhnhenn BA 4th Dementia Olde Ale. Poured this from fridge temp. Pours a nice dark brown with virtually no head. Looks super clean in the glass - very inviting. The nose....oh my the nose. Might be the best nose of any beer on the planet. Huge toffee and bourbon. Plums and figs. All of the notes are so pronounced. Nothing is being held back on this beer, which isn't surprising given the 13.5% ABV. Also picking up some yeast, vanilla, black currant, and sweet candy. I just can't stop smelling this beer! Taste is out of this world. Huge caramel smacks you in the face immediately upon sipping. Alcohol burns slightly on the back end. In the middle, there is a complex interaction between dark fruit (blackberries, currant, figs, cherries), bourbon, and nutty/bread flavors. I am just amazed by this beer. Mouthfeel is nice and thick, viscous, and chewy. Coats the mouth and lingers for a long time. Overall, one of the best beers I have tasted. I hope to find another one at some point in the future. I rarely give any 5's on anything, but it is warranted for this beer. Cheers all.

    look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

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  8. VABA

    VABA Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,735) Aug 8, 2015 Virginia
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    A-Pours a nice amber color with a slight head and lacing
    A-Aroma has malty hints
    T-The taste follows the nose with a malty flavor
    M-A medium bodied decently carbonated beer
    O-A decent try at an IPA
     
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  9. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Wheat can be used in Kolsch, but I've never seen it labeled as such. Are you thinking of "wiess" (note the vowel order) which is sometimes used for an unfiltered Kolsch-type beer?
     
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  10. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    Happy New Barely-a-beer Sunday!

    Dogfish Head has been around for over 20 years. I am sure many of you who having been paying attention to craft for any period of time have some experience with them in some fashion. Their founder is a presence in the independent craft scene, and has an personality that seems to fit his brewery’s love of “off-centered beers.”

    Like any brewery doing weird things, some will embrace or look beyond the weirdness, and some will find it all gimmick. I tend to believe there’s a balance there between making good beers and trying weird shit just because. Until the beers I try from DFH become undrinkable, I’ll keep trying their offerings.

    That said, I'm willing to admit, this offering has a bit more gimmick than normal. Their last beer I had (Dragons and Yum Yums) was a blend that to me seemed more of a fruit beer on a pale ale base than a pale ale with fruit. This blend is listed as a "beer-wine hybrid" on DFH's site, and as the closest to wine an ale can legally be:
    My GF really likes the other DFH beer/wine "hybrids," and I enjoyed Noble Rot and Red & White well enough. I expect her to like Mixed Media - and I'm guessing I'll be middle of the road on it. But let's see (yes, that is the light of the sun in the photo)...
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    Ok, this pours strikingly clear - in this 99.999999% humidity, the glass is way more cloudy than the beer. A straw body that might be leaning a little towards golden, it doesn't not look like some white wines.

    The scents wafted from my pours to me while I was taking the pictures for this post - and they were more reminiscent of a dry white wine than a beer. Upon closer inspection, there is a saison to maybe even witbier-like yeast and light spice note. The wine has merged with a a light almost crackery malt to provide a lightly fruity sweetness. As I sip, the white wine grape notes to start to present themselves again to me.

    Opening sip is mostly white grape juice, but their is a little tartness (maybe a little passion fruit like) and maybe even a hint of peach. A clean flavor, the light cracker malt from the nose can be found if I look for it. The Belgian yeast is obvious and plays along with the wine notes early before coming out just a little more in back. The back has a light white peppery note, with the peach/passionfruit making it through to that point as well.

    I must say, my first few sips of this beer were very refreshing - reminding me a bit of Noble Rot (though it has been a while since I had that beer). The wine started becoming the main player, especially up front as I drank. The beer side seemed to hold that in check more than playing along. The back had a bit more of the beer aspect, but the wine was still in play. Overall, it was still a fairly refreshing brew, though a little more carbonation would've helped this even more.

    Funny enough, I put on a Peter, Paul, and Mary album the GF has, and this song was on it: It's Raining

    P.S. the GF does really like it
     
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  11. Snowcrash000

    Snowcrash000 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,041) Oct 4, 2017 Germany
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    I just had Cloudwater's new Citra DIPA and TIPA and while they were both exceptional, I actually much prefered the DIPA. I'm not really sure what the benefit of higher ABV is supposed to be in an IPA or why to bother making a TIPA in the first place.

    These also really highlight what a fantastic brewery Cloudwater is. They are easily in the same league as Tree House or Other Half. I'd take the MCR DIPA Citra BBC over Haze any day. Seriously. What I love about it, and this is typical for Cloudwater NEIPAs, is that it's not just a straight juice bomb, but has some light malts and considerable bitterness to it as well. Personally, I also quite enjoy the light hop burn.

    While the hop bill for these varies slightly, the flavour profiles are very similar, being dominated by Citra and Mosaic, although the Nelson Sauvin does come through quite a bit in the TIPA. I'd say the main difference is that the TIPA is sweeter and slightly boozier than the DIPA, with the fruit flavours also having a slightly different shade to them that is difficult to describe. Maybe "overripe" is a good descriptor here.



    Pours an opaque, medium amber, orange coloration with a small, fizzy head. Intoxicanting, juicy aromas of citrus and tropical fruit in the nose: grapefruit, mango, pineapple, with a hint of lime and also light grassy, herbal notes.

    Taste is foremost bright, juicy hops, but complemented nicely by light, biscuity, malt. Notes of zesty grapefruit and lime and sweet mango and pineapple, with a light grassy, herbal, dank character as well. Finishes with a medium/strong bitterness and light hop burn.

    Sublime, soft, creamy mouthfeel with a rich body and medium carbonation. The ABV is almost undetectable, except for a light, warming presence in the aftertaste.



    Pours an opaque, medium amber, orange coloration with a small, creamy head. Smell is quite sweet and juicy, with a certain bubble gum aroma as well. Notes of overripe tropical fruit: mango, passion fruit, with a hint of tangerine and white grape. A little grassy dankness coming through as well.

    Taste is dominated by sweet, juicy hops, with light biscuity malt coming through as well. Booze is detectable, but really not too bad for the 9.5% ABV and quite well integrated. Overripe tropical fruit dominates: mango, passion fruit, papaya, with hints of tangerine, lime, white grape and a light, grassy, dankness as well. Finishes with a medium bitterness and light hop burn.

    Sublime, soft, creamy mouthfeel with a rich body and low/medium carbonation. Considering the 9.5% ABV, I think this is a tremedous achievement in terms of how little booziness there is to this.
     
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  12. ZebulonXZogg

    ZebulonXZogg Grand Pooh-Bah (3,142) May 5, 2015 Illinois
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    A dreary wet Sunday morning, wife off to Dad sit for her 98 year old father. Couldn't find anything called "Old Beer Sunday", so I guess I'll post it here. From deep in the crawl space a bottle of Sprecher Commando, (actually 5), dated 2013 if my 68 year old eyes don't deceive me. I think.
    Color of a dirty penny. Aroma is peat, oak, caramel and ash. Taste follows. It has a great big boozy finish which is required here. I scored it 4.24
    Compares favorably with CW's BA Scotch Ale. This goes down surprisingly easy for 11.9%. Enjoy your brews!
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  13. utopiajane

    utopiajane Grand Pooh-Bah (3,982) Jun 11, 2013 New York
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    From my copy of the bjcp . If you "scroll" upward you will find a bit about wheat taste in the flavor but that is rare .

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  14. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    1879 Kulmbacher Export, the twelfth standalone from August Schell's Stag Series.

    Technically I've tried this before (at this year's Bockfest), only it was aged on White Oak and dry-hopped, so was a very different animal than what was packaged for draught accounts and retail. Likewise, it was new to the database when I entered it. And it's Sunday. :sunglasses:

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    L: Very dark ruby-red (dark brown to the naked eye) in color, topped with a darker tan head. Excellent clarity, and good lacing.

    S: Nose is sweet and malt focused, heavy on the roast malt character, and with a complexity reminiscent of a very rich doppelbock. A bit richer and roastier than a classic Munich Dunkel. Notes of toffee.

    T: Sweet, rich, and lightly tangy / bittersweet on the first sip. Roasty notes bring up the rear, and a more complex, lingering bitterness finishes the drink. A bit drier than it might taste like it will be at first, but still malt-focused, and with the hopping providing a sharp, subtle accent.

    More toffee notes, and honey-like notes in the malt.

    F: A bit strong, and very much Bock like in many respects, and with excellent overall drinkability. In fact this could easily stand in for a Bock in a blind tasting, just to fool your friends. ; )

    O: This is an excellent dark lager by any stylistic designation, The complexity of the dark malts in particular makes it worth seeking out.

    Hopefully, others will pick up the torch and offer more Kulmbacher Style Exports in the future, and August Schell has once again done the yeoman's work in bringing a fairly ancient style into the present day.
     
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  15. CanConPhilly

    CanConPhilly Grand Pooh-Bah (4,421) May 17, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    New beer #2.

    Ethereal Haze - Other Half feat. Modern Times
    IIPA - 9.2% abv
    Purchased for $20/4 at Other Half
    Canned 5/10/18 (10 days ago)
    Score: 4.00 (-5.2% rDev)

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    L - 2-finger sparse yellowish head atop a gleaming orange body.

    S - piney. Some citrus. Not a lot going on.

    T - grapefruit and pine. Some dankness. Somewhat earthy middle. Mild bitterness, moderate sweetness, moderate booziness.

    F - medium body and carb.

    O - Not super impressive given the breweries involved. You’ve had this beer before. A boozy, dank, sweet almost-triple ipa.
     
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  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Does this beer remind you of Juicy Fruit gum?

    Have you tried BrewDogs Hazy Jane yet?

    Cheers!
     
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  17. CanConPhilly

    CanConPhilly Grand Pooh-Bah (4,421) May 17, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    It does. And yes, I tried Hazy Jane and found it way too sweet. The Root + Branch manages to be “juice-like” without the sweetness, which I personally feel should be the exemplar for the NE IPA style.
     
  18. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Thanks Maria. If you look at the bottom of the "comments" section in your pic, you'll see exactly what I was talking about. Cheers.
     
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  19. jvgoor3786

    jvgoor3786 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,222) May 28, 2015 Arkansas
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    Have you had M-43? I'd be interested in a comparison. I believe Old Nation made a beer that also beats all the greats you mentioned.
     
  20. cjgiant

    cjgiant Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,584) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    Mainly just to bust you balls if I'm recalling right:
    Don't you find a new most favoritist beer like every few weeks these days??

    :wink:
     
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