Bourbon County 2018

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by Beer_Economicus, Jul 2, 2018.

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  1. capnmike

    capnmike Zealot (670) Dec 6, 2013 Illinois
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    Friday the 13th event at Goose with VR, Regal, Rare and Templeton on draft, and Backyard and a bunch of newer bottles on site at Clyborn.
     
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  2. stevegoz

    stevegoz Savant (1,122) May 5, 2008 Illinois
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    Are they really adjuncts? Or are they additives?? :grimacing::grimacing::grimacing::rolling_eyes:
     
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  3. HawksBeerFan

    HawksBeerFan Maven (1,378) Dec 24, 2011 Illinois
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    I'm scared to try King Henry again because it's probably the best beer I've ever had and I don't want my perception of it to change.
     
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  4. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Such a rare, scarce beer, yet some 10 years later GI just keeps pulling quantities out in force.
     
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  5. jlsims04

    jlsims04 Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2013 Illinois

    its still good. I never had it fresh but even this late in the game its still excellent
     
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  6. HawksBeerFan

    HawksBeerFan Maven (1,378) Dec 24, 2011 Illinois
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    I mean, it wasn't crazy rare when it was released. I remember going to Binnys a few days after release and there were cases of it still.
     
  7. prior2two

    prior2two Maven (1,490) Oct 18, 2013 Illinois
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    It’s still very, very good, but it’s a shell of what it once was - which to be fair, was one of the best beers I’ve had.
     
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  8. Lazhal

    Lazhal Pooh-Bah (1,890) Mar 13, 2011 Michigan
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    This post is a bit of a head scratcher considering English Barleywines are one of a few styles considered to age incredibly well. Granted, I've never had the beer.
     
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  9. Chuckdiesel24

    Chuckdiesel24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,208) Jul 6, 2016 Illinois
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    I might be off but aren’t we talking 7 years here? That’s pretty long for any type of beer.
     
  10. prior2two

    prior2two Maven (1,490) Oct 18, 2013 Illinois
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    Sure thats why it's still very good, and not a hot mess.

    it still shows signs of oxidation, and the flavors have changed over time.

    When it was relatively fresh, (fresh to a year or so), it tasted like liquid brownie batter. Super thick, with strong caramel, toffee, and bourbon. After a couple years, it mellowed out into more of just an awesome beer, and the uniqueness of the 3rd use Pappy Barrels didn't really come through as much.
     
  11. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    A BW tasting like liquid brownie batter is perhaps one of very few reviews I could ever imagine reading that would not only not remind me at all of a BW, but not even make me want to try that BW.

    I still want to try it, but that's a bananas description of a BW. Never associated chocolate at all with BW, nor can I imagine it from a BC style BW.
     
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  12. eppie82

    eppie82 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,377) Apr 19, 2015 Illinois
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    I had King Henry about a month ago from Fulton, and it shot up the ranks of best tasting beers I’ve had pretty fast. The euphoria of finally getting it might be a contributing factor, but it tasted absolutely incredible. From my notes: “Toffee, caramel. Sweet. Big Mouthfeel. Barrel presence tying it all together”.

    I never had it fresh, but I wouldn’t hesitate for a second to get it again should the opportunity arise.
     
  13. OrionsHunt

    OrionsHunt Zealot (584) Jul 17, 2011 Illinois
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    KH was aged in the same barrels used for 2010 Rare, so many people noted stout characteristics in it. I would not describe it as liquid brownie batter, but the characteristics mentioned by prior of thick/caramel/toffee/bourbon were spot on with my experience. Top 10/15 all-time for me and best BW. Interested to see how it is holding up after all these years. Have one bottle that I was saving for the side by side with V2, but will have to come up with another plan.
     
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  14. nw2571

    nw2571 Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2017 Indiana

    Serious question... if the word "adjunct" gets used incorrectly to describe additives enough, will the meaning actually change? I've gotten to the point where I just bite my tongue when my beer friends use it incorrectly.
     
  15. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    And that's when it will take over...basically has at this point. Like .00000001% of the beer geeks that throw the term adjunct around actually know about the brewing process, so it ain't going to change. And, it will eventually, or really already has, become to mean what it did not mean a short while ago.
     
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  16. Chuckdiesel24

    Chuckdiesel24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,208) Jul 6, 2016 Illinois
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    I know originally adjunct was meant to describe corn in Budweiser, but people use it to describe both that and flavor additives these days. Breweries themselves use the term pretty frequently. I’d say it means both at this point.
     
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  17. Jsimansk

    Jsimansk Pundit (851) Jul 10, 2012 Illinois
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    Stay strong and fight the good fight, my friend. I think it has gotten difficult for people because sometimes adjuncts like fruit and honey have an obvious impact on flavor (not just body and other character). To make matters worse, sometimes fruit is part of fermentation and therefore an adjunct, and sometimes it’s just a flavor additive from an extract.

    So much craft beer these days does liberally use both adjuncts and additives - almost makes you wish someone would just decree that real beer should be limited to 3, or at most 4 ingredients.
     
  18. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    I see what you did there.
     
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  19. HouseofWortship

    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    Adjuncts? Additives? I take the easy way out- just use "add junk". So they add junk before fermentation and they add junk after fermentation and it tastes pretty good and even better because no one is arguing about proper brewing grammar. Add junks....
     
  20. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    I am not going to get engrossed in this conversation from a contribution stand point, but I will add one thing. I generally use additive, but sometime I use adjunct (as I did above when we were talking about adjuncting post or pre barrel). I usually use additive because in many threads there is someone who pounces on people who use adjunct incorrectly, so it's just easier this way. The reason I prefer not to use additive is because it sounds disgusting. As a life style, my wife and I try to eat whole food that is "free of additives," so despite knowing what it means here, I have a visceral (negative) reaction.
     
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