Why do breweries close so early?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Harrison8, Aug 3, 2018.

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  1. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    Most of the breweries around here close at 9 pm, compared to the bars that close at 1 am in this county. I do wish that they were open a little later like 10 to midnight, (since I work evenings and don't get out of work until 9:30 to 10) but I also can see why they wouldn't want to be open as late as bars. Breweries aren't bars. You're not there just to get tanked.
     
  2. unhyped

    unhyped Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2015 Oregon

    how can you compare being at a brewery to being at a bar or specially a night club. This is like saying it doesnt matter if the football field is not open or ready to be used but but the soccer and basketball fields are and "thats what they are there for" but what if I don't like playing soccer or basketball?
     
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  3. hoptheology

    hoptheology Grand Pooh-Bah (5,379) May 12, 2014 South Dakota
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    Once had a guy come into a retail store to say "I like prairie Bomb because it's 13%. I drink it straight from the bottle. It gets me crunked." Once I suggested a 17% beer he dropped it immediately and grabbed that instead.

    It's to prevent guys like that who drink craft for the quickest route to inebriation, likely loud and unappreciative, late at night.

    May as well be four loko happy hour to them.
     
  4. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    4Loko get him turnt. 4 4Loko get him crunked.
     
  5. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    True, completely agree, and I will add that not only breweries, but all liquor/bev. stores, amusement parks where beer is served, winery tasting rooms, and coffee shops/restaurants where beer also is served all stay open until 4:00 AM every day because what is the difference between those things and a bar?
     
  6. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Except some breweries annoyingly blast music...I never understood that.

    I haven't read through the entire thread, but some of the breweries I have been to later at night don't have many people there. Breweries are more of an older person's game (think 30s, 40s, 50s), so I doubt there's much to gain staying open late.

    I'm 36 and I love going to breweries mid-late afternoon and then heading home. It's rare I'm out at a bar past 9 or 10 pm anyways these days.
     
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  7. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Some of the breweries around here are also coffee shops earlier in the day. I'm not sure how early they open for that, or if they serve beer then.
     
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  8. moshea

    moshea Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2007 Michigan

    You are on KC Missouri, the Clampettts need to get home by dark and the college kids are drinking crap beers in Westport till 3am
     
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  9. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Some times it is because the owner/brewer was in at 5 AM to mash in at 6 AM. Some of those guys work incredible hours.
     
  10. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    There is a pretty big difference between breweries being open until 10 or 11 PM vs. being open until 2 or 3 AM. I'm not asking for the latter, or anything for that matter. I'm just curious why so many close so early. If I go out to dinner at 6 or 7 PM, I could entirely miss my opportunity to get a pint at the local brewery by the time we get our dinner check (even with prompt service). Seems that geography plays some part, with our Midwest breweries closing earlier than others.

    It sounds like we got some good answers in the mix, with limited profitability later in the evening and limited staffing being the two big re-occurring answers. Out of curiosity, I looked into the hours of local distilleries, seeing if they shared similar hours as local breweries and that is exactly the case. It's a pattern I hadn't picked up on before.
     
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  11. JeremyDanner

    JeremyDanner Zealot (679) Dec 20, 2005 Missouri

    At Boulevard, we close earlier than bars for a couple of reasons:

    1) We don't want to be a bar. We want to remain a taproom.
    2) We don't want to compete with the bars around us for late night business. We'd prefer to get folks excited about our beers and then send them off to explore the city and spend money at the restaurants/bars that support us.
     
  12. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Idiotic state laws usually have something to do with this as well, kinda like I have to take a "tour" EVERY SINGLE TIME I want to fill up a growler in NJ :rolling_eyes:
     
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  13. deleted_user_995920

    deleted_user_995920 Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2015

    I would say two reasons; local municipality rules and the Brewery's insurance policy.
     
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  14. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    Interesting. Glad to hear from someone in the industry on this, especially since I would think Boulevard would have the staffing resources to stay open late.

    Thank you.

    I think Boulevard was classified as a "winery" for a while in order for them to sell beer through their taproom. They made the bare minimum of wine every year to obtain "winery" status. I don't think this is still the case, but came about due to alcohol laws in the early 90's (Jeremy, above, could clear this up, I'm sure).
     
  15. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    What's a basketball field? :wink:

    That's also not the best analogy, because I can't play football on a basketball court. But I can drink craft beer at a beer bar that's open late. Oftentimes the specific beer I want at a brewery is actually at a local beer bar as well. I've sometimes skipped trips to the brewery because of this.
     
  16. rfgetz

    rfgetz Pooh-Bah (2,609) Nov 14, 2008 New Jersey
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    As mentioned above, in the Philly area, many breweries will also close early as not to compete with the bars in their immediate area that support and carry their product.
     
  17. JeremyDanner

    JeremyDanner Zealot (679) Dec 20, 2005 Missouri

    We were (and still are) classified as a winery in order to operate our event spaces. The rental fee covers the use of the room, bar staff and beer. Back then, if we weren't classified as a winery, we'd have to charge each person for each drink as opposed to having it all included in the rental fee. It's not related to selling beer "by the drink" in the Beer Hall.
     
  18. Dan_K

    Dan_K Pooh-Bah (1,980) Nov 8, 2013 Colorado
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    Because breweries are not bars? Don't want drunk people hanging around for hours late at night?
     
  19. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Easy. They both serve alcohol. That alcohol serves different purposes, but the later a place is open. The easier it is for things to get weird.
     
  20. IPAExpert69

    IPAExpert69 Savant (1,065) Aug 2, 2017 Pennsylvania

    Yep, and each state has their own funky laws. You have to look no further than Utah to see local government crippling the beer industry. A shame really.
     
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